Author Topic: My First Video, please critique! (Read 1633 times)

splendorlex · « **on:** December 26, 2006, 03:03:50 PM »

I need all the help I can get! Don't be shy!!

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Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

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BOWL119 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:08:38 PM »

I notice that you lean forward on the approach. Is there a medical reason that you do this? If not, you might want to try standing up straighter. Pretend you are sitting on a bar stool. That is one thing that my sons coach has got him doing.
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pilinki · « **Reply #2 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:38:03 PM »

dont drop the ball release it a little forward so it doesnt fall out of youre hand, dito with the knee bend, the stiffnes can be solved with practice and no matter if you have a 4 or 5 step aproach try to accelerate just a bit in the final 2 steps. good luck keep on improving.
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Monster Stitch · « **Reply #3 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:54:24 PM »

Hmmm.

I would say hold the ball waist high then push straight out on your first step. Be a little slower in timing so you can be more solid at the line.
ALso try to get the ball closer to your leg instead of being away. Keep the elbow inside or else you might get that chicken wing effect. THis will make your game more steady and compact.

splendorlex · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2006, 06:36:11 AM »

Thanks for the replies so far! I am a very "stiff" guy in general. I don't have a lot of flexibility, and I never have. One thing I noticed myself is how I don't bend my knee hardly at all, even though I feel like I am. It's great to have video! As far as a standard pushaway, I used to have one but my coach had me ditch it. As it is, I have a pretty high backswing, but when I had a pushaway it was out of control. I try to keep the ball low to keep my backswing in check. I do seem to have problems dropping the ball. Can anyone of you say anything about my release? That's one thing I'd most like to strengthen. Thanks!
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If you aren't watching 'The Wire,' the government should be forced to come to your house and repossess your television. END OF STORY!

Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

BOB: Did you see the way she was lookin' at me?
DOUG: Yeah, because she thought you were some kind of freak!

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2006, 07:42:10 AM »

Hey splendorlex, it is possible. If you keep working on bending your knees, you can eventually get more knee bend. I was having the same problems where I thought I was bending my knees a lot but I really wasn't.

I was definitely getting the 'too stiff' criticism a lot.

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smpecjak · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:32:54 AM »

Hay Splendorex,

It looks like you are turning your hand way too soon. Your hand is starting to move to the side of the ball as it is falling from the top of your backswing so when you get to the bottom of your swing the ball just falls off your hand and there is nothing on it. Not sure if this is from muscling the ball or maybe you are starting with your hand on the side of the ball (Can't tell from the view in video).
Start with your hand under the ball and try to maintain this position through your entire swing. At the bottom of your swing, concentrate on driving the fingers straight-up the back of the ball. I believe that the brace will give you the desired amount of wrist turn when your thumb exits the ball, so there is no need to concentrate on adding any additional turn.
Hope this helps!

gunnercrazeee · « **Reply #7 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:41:21 AM »

hi, i notice that when you release, your hand isn't behind and under the ball. well, i don't mean that your hand has to be totally under the ball though. because of this, you seem to be dropping the ball. if you get your hand more under the ball, you will have a better ball reaction and more revs(because you will have more hand to the ball). you will no longer be dropping your ball anymore. i suggest you think of not muscling the ball at all when you practise. keep a very relaxed and loose swing and depend on the ball weight to bring your swing down and not any strength. also, try to release a little bit later. a good way to practise that is to do more 1-step and 2-step drills. other than that, your approach is great.. smoother than mine haha! all the best!

cyzey · « **Reply #8 on:** December 27, 2006, 08:44:09 AM »

find some video on tommy jones and watch his release and follow through. you are definately dumping the ball at the line, and getting out way to quick. take a towel and lay it across the lane just in front of the foul line and try getting the ball over it with every shot. but as far as your release goes it really isnt good. dont want to sound like im talking down or anything, but you look to have a weak hand and wrist. try cupping the the wrist at and through the release out to your target. maybe it will help

splendorlex · « **Reply #9 on:** December 27, 2006, 12:58:18 PM »

Thanks guys, I'll try to keep my hand behind the ball a bit more. I'm also considering trying to ditch the wrist brace. I don't have any medical problems, I just always had a hard time keeping my wrist firm, not because of strength, but because of how WEIRD it felt.

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If you aren't watching 'The Wire,' the government should be forced to come to your house and repossess your television. END OF STORY!

Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

BOB: Did you see the way she was lookin' at me?
DOUG: Yeah, because she thought you were some kind of freak!

scotts33 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 27, 2006, 02:07:32 PM »

Ryan,

How tall are you? It's hard to tell. The knee bend issue can be dealt with over time. All in all your technique for as long as you've been bowling and improved is not bad IMO. The shots that you dumped the early ones are possibly more of a timing issue. Poor timing causes a lot of problems <release, staying down at the line, etc.> At least you are not hitting up on the ball. I'd rather see someone dump it than hit up on it. With a towel as cyzey suggested you can correct this easily. Hitting up which you do not do can be hard to correct.

Whackbowler said

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One thing I noticed was that your second step was a little unusual to me. Instead of taking progressively longer steps, you seem to take a mini step on #2. It kinda kills the fluidity of your approach. I don't know if it actually has any affect on your bowling, but it was just something I noticed. Anyone care to correct me?

It seems to me over the years as I've watched many bowler styles that those with a timing step like Ryan has the start of can if extremely athletic right themselves and always have perfect timing. The player that I know and many have seen is Marc McDowell from 86-96 on the PBA.....who has a emphatic timing step in his approach. One of the best at this and always has had it. It can work to your advantage if you can work it out correctly.

Who is coaching you Ryan?

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splendorlex · « **Reply #11 on:** December 27, 2006, 02:28:35 PM »

Scott--

I'm about 5'10". I sort of stoop a little bit normally, so my starting position isn't far from my normal position. I've always had a bit of a problem dumping the ball, and it used to be a lot worse than it is now. It's something I will continue to work on. I'll try to take a look at my second step, as well. An issue I occasionally run into is the ball hitting my right leg on the back swing, perhaps this is unconsciously causing me to try to get my right leg out sooner, I don't know. I've gotten about 6 lessons from Brian Chilcutt at Hawthorne, and also had one with Mark London at Deer Park. I feel like if I could correct just a couple more things I would make a quantum leap with my bowling. As it is now, I'm up 15 pins from last year, from 165 to about 180. I really feel like one or two things are really holding me back, perhaps my timing is a big part of it.
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If you aren't watching 'The Wire,' the government should be forced to come to your house and repossess your television. END OF STORY!

Mr. Lebowski, this is Bill Salnicker with the Southern Cal Bowling League, and I just got a, an informal report, that a member of your team, uh, Walter Sobchak, drew a firearm during league play. If this is true of course, it contravenes a number of the league's by-laws, and article 27 of the league...

BOB: Did you see the way she was lookin' at me?
DOUG: Yeah, because she thought you were some kind of freak!

Fluff E Bunnie · « **Reply #12 on:** December 27, 2006, 02:36:17 PM »

quote:
Thanks guys, I'll try to keep my hand behind the ball a bit more. I'm also considering trying to ditch the wrist brace. I don't have any medical problems, I just always had a hard time keeping my wrist firm, not because of strength, but because of how WEIRD it felt.

Yeah definitely ditch the wrist brace if you can. Maybe it will feel weird at first but I am sure you will get used to it pretty fast.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 27, 2006, 02:52:50 PM »

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An issue I occasionally run into is the ball hitting my right leg on the back swing, perhaps this is unconsciously causing me to try to get my right leg out sooner,

Ryan,

With a four step approach the first step or the second step in a five step with your right foot being right handed most really good players take what is termed a cross over step. We take a small move to the left with our right foot and put our right foot in front of the left. This is the crossover. What is does is clear your right hip especially for big guys. It keeps the arm swing free and like a pendulum. I'm talking about a slight move with your right foot in front of your left foot not a huge swing with your right foot. I walk straight by doing this. If, I start standing on 20 and do the crossover step I still slide on 20. Try it at home in front of a mirror. Just a slight crossover and see if that clears your hip and make your arm swing free and more pendulum like then try it at the lanes and see what happens.

FYI.....really great pros who are very good at this are Steve Cook a lefty who use to wear out the heel of his crossover foot and the toe of the other. After perfecting this move you'll feel your heel clip the toe of your left shoe.

Try and see if you can find a video of Marc McDowell <he won the Firestone TOC in 92......maybe you can find a video of that tournament> to see his timing step that is if you want to see if this is something you can do. I will say you need to be very athletic to perfect this move. Once you do you should always have perfect timing. It's not for everybody.

I think getting lessons/coaching is the right way to go.

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Scott

DANGERZONE · « **Reply #14 on:** December 27, 2006, 05:05:37 PM »

I see someone also mentioned that you loose the brace....I think that may be part of the reason that the ball is falling off your hand.

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