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Doc Hollywood

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My Vid
« on: January 17, 2004, 08:56:32 AM »
Thanks to Leftside I am able to post this pre RonC coaching video.

We will see what my game looks like after the coaching.

www.bowlingkingdom.com/v2small.WMV

By the way the heads were dry and there is OB outside of 8 board.

I have changed pitches and span since this video and now getting out of the ball cleaner.

I have a timing issue that I am working on to free up that arm swing.


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Re: My Vid
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2004, 12:21:04 AM »
FWIW:
my first guess is will stop you from applying the death grip to the ball.

you can not relax your swing when you support all the weight of the ball in your bowling hand.

from some coaching I received; have someone( any CPL will do) squeeze your biceps when you are setup. now place your left hand under the ball and support all the weight you can with your left. relax your arm and have them squeeze it again.

this is a powerful mental picture to have with you. and an eye opener. especially when you can get more revs on the ball with less effort.

not that there is anything wrong with a controlled swing but that is a young mans style for sure. as you get older it doesn't take much to wear down in a 8 game set. take that from the bin there, done that file.
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Re: My Vid
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2004, 12:23:54 AM »
Thanks for the tip OmegaBowler.  Like I said I have changed a few things so far so my grip is much better but I still am working at fine tuning it.

Keep the comments coming it's always good to hear what others have to say.


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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2004, 12:51:05 AM »
that's all I can say. because that's as far as my coaching goes. I don't have a coaches eye for all the subtle things. but that has help me a great deal.

and it's one of Ron's tip on his page. the thing is, reading and tips and such never release a in person lesson.

the only other basic I have is knowing how many boards difference there is between your slide foot and where the ball crosses the  line. I'm at seven boards( wide hips, I not fat! I'm big boned! )

so I know that when I want to play right up the oil line at 10 I line up at 17.
what that means for the bowler is you can make small accurate adjustments.

I was also shown a great visual example along with this. playing swing shots. line up to slide at 20, hit second arrow . now place a piece of yarn at the( 20 - drift - setdown distance) board at the fowl line. drag it across the second arrow. this may be a real line for you. sometimes it goes right towards the gutter. the geometry doesn't change but you did.

lesson from guys Like Ron are the best thing you can do for your game. let us know how they go. Good luck
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Re: My Vid
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2004, 12:52:19 AM »
Bones, from where you sit can you even see the monitor?

Doc, always a fantastic idea to get competent coaching (a wiser use of $$$ than a new ball IMHO). From what I gather, it looks like you have a very solid foundation, and maybe a few tune-up areas. They may or may not work for you, as everyone is different. I am anxiously awaiting to get together with my coach again, seems like my release is gone.
Good luck, can't wait to hear and see the outcome.
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Re: My Vid
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2004, 01:33:01 AM »
Good form and all that, but you're pretty short arent you??
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2004, 10:46:09 AM »
Thanks Bones for the nice comment.  Maybe one day I'll be able to shoot some numbers like you.

Rock77 - I am short at 5'6.  The funny thing is I have really short legs and a longer torso.  


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Re: My Vid
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2004, 09:50:21 PM »
anyone else?
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Re: My Vid
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2004, 10:04:15 PM »
You are going to need a very good coach as most can only coach 4 step timing. You take 4 steps but you are actually using 3 step timing. There have been a few very good three step bowlers one that comes to mind is Henry Gonzales (sp). If you could find a tape of him and try and get the timing he has.

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2004, 10:29:59 PM »
you have a style that is very similar to mine! i am a lefty, but you have a release and form that made me say, wow, thats like a mirror of myself. you drop the ball alot later than i.

the only difference is i go with a bit more arm swing. i am also 5'6"... weird.

i notice how the ball doesn't drop til well into the second step. i agree with the 3-step comment, if you are having timing issues that is where they are coming from. your swing is rushed. i push the ball out during my first step, and it is dropping as i place my foot down.

i have alot of timing issues myself. i work my a$s off to keep that ball passing my foot right as i end my slide. if i am early, i will damn near fall over sideways *and do!*. alot of times, when i am early, my slide foot is turned in. just one of the little subtle clues to tell me to slow my feet down.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2004, 06:10:51 AM »
Hi Doc, nice vid!

As you may have seen, I'm also going thru some lessons and my style/swing/cadence has changed totally.  You have a muscled swing, you may not feel it, but you do.  Within 15 minutes w/RON you'll be swinging like you've never felt before !  It will feel strange at first, but it WILL feel better !

I just had my second lesson, and I can't believe I used to bowl the way I used to bowl !

Good luck! You'll love it !

By the way, what ball were you throwing in the vid ?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2004, 06:14:15 AM »
See Doc,

I've been telling him about the muscling for how long....does he listen? Nooooooo.....and he is short....but I'm shorter and high avg in the league so nobody picks on me....
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Re: My Vid
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2004, 06:23:55 AM »
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See Doc,

I've been telling him about the muscling for how long....does he listen?


Rick,....he will.....15 minutes is a big window...he'll see it after his first shot...it's like a revalation!!
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2004, 08:18:54 AM »
Doc you have a great foundation to work with.Your game is nice and simple and basic.You are one that can be versatile when needed with this type of game.Thier are some points of improvement to look at.

1)Free up your arm swing "may cause your feet/approach to be slightly faster"
2)Drop the ball into your swing more
3)Your robbing yourself of power by staying in the ball to long.You have a late thumb exit witch is making your fingers rotate around the side of the ball instead of through it.Your thumb should be exiting about your ankle"doesn't have to but does help"
4)Be positive and honest with yourself.These are the important changes and may take time to see improvements but stick with what RONC teaches you.He seems like a good coach.

I am curious as to see how much your average improves I would say 10-12 pins after the coaching improves.Thiers not a doubt in my mine that you will be averaging 210 plus by next fall.Good luck and always have fun.
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Doc Hollywood

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Re: My Vid
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2004, 09:37:46 AM »
Thanks for the advice guys.  I am working on those things as we speak.  You know it's tough to break bad habits when you never really learned to do it the right way.  

I was speaking with Rick(tenpinspro) and he has been helping out.  A lot comes from the condition we bowl on and noticing the quick breakdown of the shot.  When the shot is there I can string the shots but when I lose the shot I begin to muscle it more to get to the breakpoint.  With more time I will get this thing down.  

Keep em coming
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