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HamPster

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Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« on: January 06, 2006, 11:55:56 AM »
I know, I know, dumb comparison.  What I'm basically after is a ball I can move left with when my track burns that will be consistent and strong at the breakpoint.  Solid or particle makes no difference to me.  I had a Strike Zone back before I started throwing the ball better, and it was too strong back then, but I'm positive it'd work fine now.  Thing is, I'd prefer throwing Storm.  The only real comparison I can find is the Trifecta.  Don't even suggest the Diablo, it's a piece of junk.  It's way too flippy and doesn't rev well.  I know 4 or 5 people that had them, and none of them liked it either.  Plus it's not strong enough for what I'm looking for to begin with.  I'd also thought about a Scorchin Inferno, but all I've really seen are pictures, haven't seen any tech specs.  

The Trifecta reminds me of the El Nino X-IT, a ball I liked.  What I want to know is if the Trifecta would be close enough of a reaction SHAPE (I'm not comparing hook potential here, they both have enough for what I want) to the SZ to get away with it.  It's a solid particle, so it would be more angular than regular particle, and I doubt it'd have trouble revving up.  I also don't think it'd be quite as jumpy as the SZ tended to be.  I just don't want something that's gonna be flat on the backend or need to be revved up a ton.
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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 09:00:07 PM »
Why not Vertigo with a Strike Zone?  Both strong assymetrical resins that can handle oil.
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HamPster

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2006, 05:48:54 AM »
Yeah, actually I was thinking of the Vertigo first, but being in the pro shop business, I like to pick out stuff to throw that nobody else in town has.  There are a couple Vertigos already floating around town, but no Trifectas, and only one other Strike Zone.  One of the Storm reps sent me a message about the Passion, and I just might have to hold off and get that.
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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2006, 06:42:10 AM »
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Yeah, actually I was thinking of the Vertigo first, but being in the pro shop business, I like to pick out stuff to throw that nobody else in town has.  There are a couple Vertigos already floating around town, but no Trifectas, and only one other Strike Zone.  One of the Storm reps sent me a message about the Passion, and I just might have to hold off and get that.
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So you rather have a bad ball that no1 has, rather than a good ball that many people have?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2006, 09:16:32 AM »
I have seen a local guy throw both the Vertigo and Trifecta side by side.

As expected the Trifecta was very strong but archier the Vertigo was very strong and ever so slightly more backend.  In our light volume long crown the very good bowling fellow was able to move in some au jus deeper inside and carry like mad with teh Vertigo..  A little less good with the Trifecta.
Say like 240 to 215!  For 6 games each.

A great ball with a Brunswick cover(strike zone cover I think) that I love...(what a move) is the Total Annhilation(pin touching top corner of ring and strong mass bias!).

All 3 of these balls.  Vertigo...Strike Zone and Total Annhilation are awesome assymetrics different from probably what you have used in the past and kill many shots(synthetic kings).

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2006, 11:14:58 AM »
So you're saying the Trifecta's a bad ball?  I might just go with a Vertigo for right now, I've always been kinda interested in it, AND it's an asymmetric, I love asymmetrics . .

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Yeah, actually I was thinking of the Vertigo first, but being in the pro shop business, I like to pick out stuff to throw that nobody else in town has.  There are a couple Vertigos already floating around town, but no Trifectas, and only one other Strike Zone.  One of the Storm reps sent me a message about the Passion, and I just might have to hold off and get that.
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So you rather have a bad ball that no1 has, rather than a good ball that many people have?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2006, 11:22:55 AM »
Oh no...it is what it is.  A particle which if we had more oil volume would probably turn the tables on the Vertigo!

Both great balls with different purposes.

On our lanes ...lighter volume...long shot of spotty au jus it is Vertigo by a wide margin...on your shot...Trifecta may be great!

I myself like all these new coverstocks...Total Annhilation, Vertigo, Strike Zone..the non particle particles!

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Luckylefty
PS Vertigo can generate backend in a shorter period of time!  True with most same cored particle vs reactive comparisons.  Reactive...is more reactive!


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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2006, 11:24:27 AM »
Im not saying that the trifecta is a bad ball. But the only trifectas ive seen was used on burnt conditions. I myself have a Vertigo, and i would recomend it to ppl that wants a heavy oil ball with a nice backend.
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HamPster

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2006, 12:06:38 PM »
I just changed my order to a Vertigo.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2006, 01:25:31 PM »
We have a lefty around here who switched to this ball...and he is up 20 pins YTD on our really tough long severe wet/dry...He went pin over bridge and strong mass bias(he likes near straight up the boards).

I went pin touching top pap corner of ring and mass bias strong and this allows me to go inside to play the wet dry. Both of us MB about 2 inches from center of grip line or 1 1/2 from thumb!

Great balls!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2006, 02:23:07 PM »
I'm guessing symmetric!  Not bad but I'm in to these assyms myself right now!

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2006, 02:46:08 PM »
Yeah, asymmetrics are my favs at the moment.  I've averaged about 240 with my Depth Charge, and come to think of it, I've always averaged higher with asymmetric stuff.  I'll probably stack mine, maybe put a little polish on it.  I like to play up the boards too, but I've found an incredible key in my release to some great versatility, so I can play a line the whole night with relatively small changes whether the shot holds up very long or not.  We've got a bunch of head oil at one house, and oil period at the other house, so I'm looking forward to getting it.  I've thrown a friends' Vertigo, (stacked also) and I loved the way it revved up and was smooth and very powerful.  I should have just ordered one of these to begin with, thanks for talking me into it!
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Strike Zone vs Trifecta
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2006, 08:07:52 AM »
We love the mass bias strong in our house....half way between grip center line and VAL.

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Luckylefty
PS but our pattern is 16 feet of oil(on top of the 5:30 morning 40 foot run)....bone dry for 30 feet(except for carrydown you create) and then a little sloppy left over au jus in the back.


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