Author Topic: need a ball to cut through oil and monster backend! (Read 5167 times)

splitcity · « **on:** February 17, 2009, 03:11:12 AM »

i am looking for something to replace my fury. i have narrowed it down to 3 balls but need some help! i average 211 throw 12-8 with lots of speed. i want something that will hook alot and offer tremendous backend. at this point i my biggest priority is backend. i want to stay with reactives only so my 3 choices are;

1) buzzbomb solid
2) rotogrip cell
3) visionary immortal solid

which one do you guys think will fit the bill? any other balls that would be better? thanks!

pin-chaser · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2009, 02:20:27 PM »

Virtual Gavity without question.

neverbackdown_x7x · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2009, 03:53:03 PM »

Jay · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2009, 04:17:59 PM »

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Any true heavy oil ball isn't going to be a backend monster. By being a heavy oil ball, its made to find friction early and exploit that friction to create traction and read. By this alone, the ball is going to have more of an arcing motion, not skid snap.

Just curious, would this make the Virtual Gravity not a true heavy oil ball, as opposed to balls like the Dimension and Cell? I ask because the VG does have one of the bigger backends for a ball that can handle a good amount of oil.

mainzer · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:04:40 PM »

NO BALL CAN HOOK IN OIL AND STILL HAVE A POWERFUL BACKEND!

Buy Two balls one designed to do each
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Danes07 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:13:10 PM »

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Any true heavy oil ball isn't going to be a backend monster. By being a heavy oil ball, its made to find friction early and exploit that friction to create traction and read. By this alone, the ball is going to have more of an arcing motion, not skid snap.

Just curious, would this make the Virtual Gravity not a true heavy oil ball, as opposed to balls like the Dimension and Cell? I ask because the VG does have one of the bigger backends for a ball that can handle a good amount of oil.

i would say the VG is as close as it gets to what he wants...i have a buzzbomb that is very strong in oil and still angular aswell

I would agree with the part about the Virtual Gravity. That ball is probably about as close to what he wants as he's gonna find...and even then, it depends on the surface of the ball.

The Buzzbomb is a good one for being able to handle oil and retain some energy for an aggressive move. Another one would be the Cell Pearl. From what I've heard its one of the earliest rolling pearls ever made, so that might be an option....ability to handle oil and still snap hard. Tough to have it both ways.
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Danes07 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:22:15 PM »

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i have 2 cell pearls that are the earliest pearls i have ever had but are no comparison to the others mentions..maybe if the surface is taken down it could handle the flood but would lose its backend...

Yeah, I know the Cell Pearl is no comparison to the other balls mentioned. The OP is looking for the best of both worlds and I think that the Cell Pearl is one ball that could kind of like what he is looking for. Ability to handle oil but still have some pop on the backend. But, as we all know, its still a pearl, and this does limit its ability to handle oil.

Like you said, he could knock the surface down, but this affects how much backend is achieved.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:39:01 PM »

Here is a link to when I asked this same question a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=228038&ForumID=16&CategoryID=5
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J_w73 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:41:39 PM »

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i have 2 cell pearls that are the earliest pearls i have ever had but are no comparison to the others mentions..maybe if the surface is taken down it could handle the flood but would lose its backend...

Yeah, I know the Cell Pearl is no comparison to the other balls mentioned. The OP is looking for the best of both worlds and I think that the Cell Pearl is one ball that could kind of like what he is looking for. Ability to handle oil but still have some pop on the backend. But, as we all know, its still a pearl, and this does limit its ability to handle oil.

Like you said, he could knock the surface down, but this affects how much backend is achieved.
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From what is being said about the Rogue Cell.. it is exactly what he is looking for. Whether it is the real deal or not is another point.
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bestbudzs24 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:10:31 PM »

i would look into the Intense LevRG from morich its a great heavy oil ball with a nice hard move to pins on the backend
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Medichal · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:25:57 PM »

Morich Ntense great for heavy oil with carry down.Get it drilled with a dual angle drilling.

trash heap · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2009, 06:53:20 AM »

To me this is a trick question. If you have a ball that will work in Heavy Oil it does NOT have the MONSTER BACKEND. I do NOT think you can have both.

dizzyfugu · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2009, 07:12:51 AM »

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To me this is a trick question. If you have a ball that will work in Heavy Oil it does NOT have the MONSTER BACKEND. I do NOT think you can have both.

Ditto. One does not go well with the other, unless you do not want to score at all. You CAN drill a ball to be aggressive and flippy, even play it on heavy/long oil, but I doubt that you are able to score well with it - esp. with your speed-dominant game.
On heavy oil, you want the ball to roll early, build up monentum und finish (which means with astable roll into the pocket). With a huge back end reaction, you have a very hard time achieving just that, chances are high that the ball still "wants" to skid down the lane, and that you just get over/under hell out of it. But if that's what you want for show...?
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burly1 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2009, 07:52:02 AM »

I am also a speed dominant type, I owned a fury, still own a buzzbomb, owned a cell, owned a black widow bite- and solid, have thrown a virtual gravity, and own a dynamo. The dynamo walks all over all of them on the backend FOR ME, except for maybe the virtual it was very close and I liked it, but I really did not need it right now. Hope this helps just a little.
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Locke · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2009, 12:33:38 PM »

I would hold on for a few more weeks and see what the new Rogue Cell looks like. They say more friction in the oil than the original Cell and 5% more friction on the back end than the Cell Pearl. It sounds like best of both worlds and its supposed to be stronger than the original. That will get you the reaction I think you are looking for.Just put a longer drilling on it and watch it flip.
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jls · « **Reply #30 on:** February 18, 2009, 01:41:04 PM »

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dynamo

Wait, first your house must widen the lanes by 5 boards to handle this ball

..... according to their ad.

Or maybe they should just wait till the first of the month when their next new release comes out, cause by then, you will need to widen the lanes by 10 boards

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