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hookem

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"less is more fad"
« on: March 15, 2005, 01:59:58 AM »
I didn't want to hijack Bones post but it got me thinking.  The fad phrase today might be less is more and some pro's seem to be going to this (Robert smith) to adapt to the tour conditions but if you read the posts it seems everyone wants to put more revs on the ball.  Why does there seem to be this contradiction to terms and even in the videos posted you almost never see anyone smooth and direct it's jerking up at the line, the feet getting there well ahead of the armswing and turning the crap out of the ball.  Call this a rant if you will, but I'm sick of the less is more when all I see is everyone still trying to rip the cover off the ball and everyone ooohhhing and awweeing over it.  In your opinions do revs equate to better pin action and carry and why do many want to increase their rev rate?  Is it for genuine purposes or bragging rights in a way? sorry if my post seems to lack continuity.
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michelle

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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 10:14:52 AM »
Keep in mind that it is more often than not the younger set that is dead set on covering a lane-and-a-half with every shot.  As they age, they adapt to the reality that there are conditions where a Dave Husted or Rick Lawrence game, however boring it might be, is precisely what is more apt to get a check than is insisting on playing a line that does not exist on a given condition.  

And, there are still instances where the revs are there, but it is on mild equipment which helps to ameliorate the overreaction on the back end of the lane...
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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 10:16:57 AM »
On THS revs equate to more mistake room (espcially at the break point when you are matched up) and increased entry angle which bring increased carry (especially on off hits). The emphasis is on power.

On the tour, they are using less revs because the patterns hook more and because the patterns dont allow as much mistake room. The emphasis is on accuracy and consistancy.

This two venues are not comparing apple to apples.
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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 11:23:43 AM »
Sure, tossing a high-rev ball looks pretty. Personally, I don't even mess between the outside arrows and gutters unless I'm shooting at the 7 or 10. I'd rather have a feeling of control than someone "oohing" and "ahing." I finally realized "less is more" about a year ago and its shown. I went from a 163 bowler to around a 175 and I've been posting more and more 200+ games since I purchased my first new ball in about four years about two weeks ago (Columbia Big Bully, YAY!). I usually release lined up with the center arrow, put the ball over the second arrow from the right, then let the ball snap on the backend.  The rest is spot bowling from there on out. There's no greater feeling than knocking out someone throwing a monster hook by scoring consistantly.  "Pretty" never added pins to my total.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 01:30:23 PM »
The bowlers saying "less is more" are the ones that have already achieved "more".  The Pete Webers and the Robert Smiths.  Most of the rest of us still have to strive to get to where they are with their "less".  --  JohnP
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 01:51:55 PM »
JohnP...

  I would argue that why bother getting to more if all you are going to do is relearn less in the end. Why not simply learn the skills of bowling and not how to cheat the requirements?
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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 04:00:49 PM »
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It does seem to be a matter of perspective in terms of revs. The Pros looking down and most of the rest of us looking up. A question for those who follow it closely, what would be considered "average" revs on tour?
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JohnP

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 09:26:25 PM »
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I would argue that why bother getting to more if all you are going to do is relearn less in the end. Why not simply learn the skills of bowling and not how to cheat the requirements?


Pinchaser -- Exactly.  My point was that some people have gone beyond optimum revs, and are coming back.  Most non-pros are still trying to get up to optimum.  --  JohnP
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TheBowlingKid25

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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 09:40:13 PM »
IMHO, going to the highest revs you can, then going back down is good. The main reason I say that, is because its better to know HOW to do something if you ever need it. It would be nice to know how to crank it like max bob and know how to stroke it like Rick Lawrence, but in reality, not many people are good enough and dont have enough time/money to learn those 2 and everything in between. If a person can crank it, and also have a tweener style though, thats the money.
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Re: "less is more fad"
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2005, 06:48:49 AM »
I see nothing wrong with the grip-n-rip style if that is what gets the youth excited about bowling.It won't take long for them to realize that the key to improve beyond a certain point is the straight ball for spares.If the bowler is serious about the game all deliveries will become important.If not,what's wrong with windin' it up.I've been bowling for over 40 years and I still LOVE to go gutter to gutter and crush the rack once in a while.


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