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Gizmo823

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Realistic versatility
« on: June 04, 2014, 08:47:19 AM »
I'm primarily a league bowler.  I get out to a few big tournaments every year, some local ones, sweepers, etc.  Bowling over the summer in a Kegel challenge league of sorts, and naturally I'm finding some holes in my game, but I'm not sure how to interpret them.  I can't tell if I'm just out of practice when confronted with lines I don't usually play or if I'm really just not good at playing them.  I'm really not comfortable playing the rail unless it's a short pattern, but even then I can't really play a 5-3 line, my game just isn't built for that, and that frustrates me.   (as a side note though, my equipment consists of a Covert Revolt, a Primal Rage, and a Tribal, so honestly I'm not completely set up for a wide variety of patterns)  I don't want to be one of those guys that relies on their equipment for everything, but I don't want to be getting pissed off at something that honestly IS an equipment issue rather than a proficiency issue. 

I've been starting to practice more recently, but it's hard finding the time.  I've been messing with mechanics and am figuring out that I've been doing things the same way for so long that it's going to take a lot of time to change things up.  As far as my actual versatility goes, I can play everything from straight up 5 to lofting the left cap on a house shot, gets more limited on sport patterns, but at the same time, some patterns you just can't play everywhere no matter how versatile you are.  I know this isn't much to go on, but am I trying to push too hard or being unrealistic?  So far we've bowled on Autobahn, Sydney, Tokyo, Turnpike, and Boardwalk, 5 games a night, move a pair every game, I'm averaging 206 really just using my Covert Revolt, I used my Primal and Tribal most of last night on Boardwalk, but the first 4 weeks I didn't use them outside of trying them in practice.  Nothing special, but nothing to sneeze at, especially just using one ball for most of it, BUT I don't know if I'm just being too anal or too perfectionistic.  I know exactly how and where to throw the ball every time and it pisses me off that I can't do it every time.  I hate knowing as soon as I let a shot go that it has no chance but having to watch it anyway.  I know that's part of bowling, but I feel like I'm giving tons and tons of pins away every game. 

What would you be if you were attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis?

 

spmcgivern

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2014, 09:47:49 AM »
The first thing I notice is your perception of what you should be "scoring."  I think you need to eliminate any expectations from your game and only worry about the physical aspects.  If you know you need to stand on X board, release the ball Y way and hit Z, then do that only.  If the ball doesn't react as expected, consider it as knowledge instead as a bad ball.

Also, the pros and better amateurs are good because they practice and know how the sport shots react and break down.  You won't get better at sport shots by only bowling league on them in the summer.  It takes practice on those type of shots to be better, just like practice on THS makes you better at THS shots.  If you bowl 2 winter leagues and one summer sport shot league with 4 different patterns, you will bowl 216 games on THS and maybe 9-12 games on 4 other patterns.  At this stage you need to start practicing on what you will encounter instead of trying to invent sport shot practicing on THS or open play lanes.

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2014, 09:57:16 AM »
In a scratch environment, it matters not WHAT you shoot, only that you tally more than your opponent.  I had regional events where a 225 across 12 games did not make the cut and I had events where -2 for the 12 games was the tournament leader.  Scoring in and of itself only serves to feed the ego...

Gizmo823

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2014, 10:18:19 AM »
Both true.  I suppose I didn't want to make it sound like scoring was my only objective, but meaning giving away pins with bad shots, not because I'm trying to hit a certain score, I just don't like freely tossing them away.  Actually in this league you bowl yourself.  You beat your average, get a point, you don't, no points.  But it's a Jr Gold preparation league for kids, but if adults want to bowl, it's just 10 bucks a night for the practice, so there's absolutely nothing on the line.  If I make a good shot and drive by a 9 or stone an 8, that's perfectly ok.  The excessively bad shots that result in pins just flying out the window because I made a bad shot is what pisses me off. I'm out averaging anybody else by at least 10 pins, and the guy running the league has told the kids to come watch how I'm playing the lanes because I'm good at laneplay and reading ball reaction, but I HATE just flat out flagging shots here or there.  Maybe it's the drinking.  I only have a couple beers, but instead of zoning me in like it used to, it zones me out . . I could be really over thinking this whole thing.  It's not like I sit there and get plastered, just a couple beers while bowling, and lately it's been affecting me more and more. 
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amyers2002

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2014, 10:30:39 AM »
Gizmo you always seem to know more than I do but have you considered that your equipment all seems very strong to me for sport shots. I know you love the motiv stuff and from what I have seen its great but maybe you should look to add something a little less strong to your line up might give you more flexibility than you currently have

Gizmo823

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2014, 10:58:57 AM »
Yeah hopefully adding an Apex here soon, but at the same time, I just don't see sport patterns often enough to justify having a lot of equipment sitting around just to get used a couple times a year.  But yeah you're right, I've got enough hook to cover most of what I see, just not too much on the lower end. 

Gizmo you always seem to know more than I do but have you considered that your equipment all seems very strong to me for sport shots. I know you love the motiv stuff and from what I have seen its great but maybe you should look to add something a little less strong to your line up might give you more flexibility than you currently have
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amyers2002

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2014, 11:07:04 AM »
Yeah hopefully adding an Apex here soon, but at the same time, I just don't see sport patterns often enough to justify having a lot of equipment sitting around just to get used a couple times a year.  But yeah you're right, I've got enough hook to cover most of what I see, just not too much on the lower end. 

Gizmo you always seem to know more than I do but have you considered that your equipment all seems very strong to me for sport shots. I know you love the motiv stuff and from what I have seen its great but maybe you should look to add something a little less strong to your line up might give you more flexibility than you currently have

I was sitting here thinking apex when I was typing this but I figured you were already thinking about it

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Re: Realistic versatility
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2014, 05:02:14 PM »
I think Gizmo raises some interesting and important points.  The first thing I would say is that their is a lot more involved than just being constent or sharp on sport patterns.  Most high average house shooters are more capable of being consistent and repeating shots than people believe.  The problem is the high reving strong axis tilt release that most readily exploits THS can simply be unmanageable on many sport patterns, particularly ones that are much longer or shorter than house patterns.

Therefore I think the first thing a bowler in Gizmos position needs to ask himself if whether is game matches up with flatter patterns where it is often necessary to play straighter angles, particularly in qualifying. 

As for equipment, I like long pin to pap positions ( either up or down depending on what I want out of a ball ).  I really think 3 or 4 balls can cover most tournament patterns, but it is an individual thing one what that equipment might be