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NtheDitch · « **on:** November 22, 2008, 09:38:43 AM »

But I still can't figure something out for the extreme dry lanes that I've been seeing, late at night. I don't know my PAP exactly but I track right next to the fingers and thumb, bowtie about an inch above the fingers my rev rate is medium to high 350ish probably more lately with my timing work. Ball speed is an average of about 16.5 and from what I know about it i don't have a whole lot of tilt. let me know if i missed something. Ok with all of that said. Everything I carry hooks too much.. and i know thats kind of vague but its true. Playing straighter would be my goal but not a must, So i need some suggestions for drills, balls or anything, my usual thing of moving my break point further out to the gutter doesn't work with this houses OB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2008, 05:57:07 PM »

With that high a track, you have little tilt. So the ball normally rolls quite early.

Normally, the further outside, the more dry there is. So under ordinary circumstances, you want to play deeper and you do not want to ball to go much outside the 10 board, all the way down the lane.

** What is the ball that best suits dry lanes for you now?
** and what drill and surface do you have on it?

To play dry-ish lanes, you want length AND reduced backend.

Players such as yourself often need high pins and CG kicked out to reduce the backend.

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NtheDitch · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2008, 06:15:12 PM »

Currently the best ball for dry lanes is my Raid pin under about an inch above the grip center MB swung way out about 45* and hole just inside my PAP. This past thursday night I was playing about 28 to about 7 with reduced hand, and pretty much maxing out my speed with out getting out of balance.
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2008, 07:13:19 PM »

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Currently the best ball for dry lanes is my Raid pin under about an inch above the grip center MB swung way out about 45* and hole just inside my PAP. This past thursday night I was playing about 28 to about 7 with reduced hand, and pretty much maxing out my speed with out getting out of balance.
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This scenario sounds familiar. Have you posted this question before, within the past 2 weeks?

The Raid is nowhere near being a dry lanes ball, no matter the drilling or the surface preparation. Maybe for a very high ball speed bowler, with very low rev rate.

I think, if you'd like to stick to Ebonite products, you should consider either a Red/Black Bash (still leans towards medium oil) or a Tornado.

From other Brands:
900Global: Link
AMF Angle Red/Silver pearl (pancake core)
AMF Orbit Extreme Blue/White pearl
Brunswick: Avalanche Slide
Columbia: Jazz, Scout (pancake core)
Hammer: Razyr
Lane#1: ChainSaw, Bullet
Lanemasters: Hornet
MoRich: Mojave
Storm: Tropical Storm
Roto-Grip: Neptune
Visionary: Blue/Green Centaur
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Edited on 11/23/2008 3:17 AM

tenpin477 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2008, 08:28:44 PM »

NtheDitch · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2008, 10:17:47 PM »

The question I posted before was about pin axis drillings for dry lanes and didn't receive much responce. As for the XXXL I've thrown one and it really did nothing for me hooks just the same as my Ice Storm. Plastics not out of the question because I have used it in the past I was just looking for some combos of drills and balls. I have looked into the Avalanche series and its looking like my best option right now since I have tried the tornado option and it and most other pancake blocks just don't match up for me. But I'm still not ruling anything out just looking for more options.
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charlest · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2008, 02:21:17 AM »

Then my strongest recommendations are balls with real cores, but small flare:

Avalanche Slide (Very weak, needs full strength drilling)
Bash Red/Black (May need milder surface than stock)
Blue/Green Centaur (great ball with very versatile cover. I've used it from stock 1000 grit US to 4000 grit Abralon to various polished surfaces.)

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KingofKings696 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2008, 10:12:39 AM »

I dont know if it would work for him but why not a reverse label drilling if you will from what Ive seen with this drilling is it doesnt seem to hook as hard and seems smooth?

Mike E · « **Reply #8 on:** November 23, 2008, 10:33:55 AM »

Had the same problem for a long time. Solved it with 6" pin to pap with a 135 degree backend. Some balls to try this on (XXXL,Slate Blue Gargoyle,Blue Green Centaur, Green Hornet). I also put the pin 4" above the midline but with your ballspeed I think that might be too high for you.Maybe 3&1/2 would work better.

Good Luck,
Mike E

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