Ron your tips are great...and I have enjoyed and used quite a few of them as well. Also, I have given some of your advice to a few of my teamates (great bowlers, but grip and and rippers) and they actually pay attention and learned from them...lol. They think I'm brilliant....lol. I tried explaining it was Ron C, but they seemed to have used up all their grey matter with the tips you have taught them via me. Wish I could be like the Matrix and upload your bowling knowledge to my head...lol.