Author Topic: Do the Lanes Dry Out by Themselves? (Read 1486 times)

dicnic · « **on:** October 02, 2008, 04:01:03 AM »

Think of the following situation: When they oil the lanes after the 7 P.M. shift (about 10 P.M.) to get ready for the next morning, the lanes always seem quite dry in the morning.

But, when they oil the lanes at 6 P.M. for the 7 P.M. shift, the lanes play like they have some oil on them, quite different from in the morning.

So, the question is, does the oil somehow dissipate during the night? Same lane man, same machine, same pattern, humidity probably reasonably high, even inside as it is hot and humid in SE Florida.

The lanes are synthetic, the approaches are wood.

I do not understand this phenomenon as I do not think oil of any sort evaporates and it certainly cannot be absorbed into synthetic lanes.

Any ideas?
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lsf_21 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:09:26 PM »

yes... i wouldnt think it would be all that drastic just over night but i know we have oiled lanes... nobody bowl on them and a week later be able to walk on them like theres no oil on the lane
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batbowler · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:22:07 PM »

The oil doesn't evaporate! They may oil them differently in the evening. Just because you see them oil the lanes doesn't mean they are using the same program in the machine. We use several different programs that we use for different leagues, one double oils, one touches up basically the heads, and one for standard league shot. We've oiled the lanes and nobody has bowled on them and you go out there to practice the next day and you still have the same shot as was the day before. Just my $.02, Bruce
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Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2008, 04:11:39 AM »

Normaly with older wood lanes (without guardian) the longer the pattern has time to sit on the lane the longer the shot will stay. This is because the wood much like our equipment have micro pores and when the oil can sit on them some gets taken in. The pattern then somewhat sets into the wood. That is why real old wood lanes have a track area and the track area can differ from house to house. Depending on how the pattern in layed down and how it is bowled on this all makes an affect. That is why old wood lanes get resurfaced. To remove and smooth out the indents from the guys who loft by the arrows and to help return the wood to a closer New installed reaction.

If you talk to bowlers who bowl in a house that has say highschool bowling that does the lanes for league after the HS bowling is done. The days that they have HS bowling at there center (wood center) the lane gets drier alot faster. Then ask them about the days they come in for there 6 oclock league when no HS bowling was done and the lanes were done 3-4 hours ahead of time. I bet everyone says it is like there lanes have more oil. This is because the oil had time to sit on the wood lanes and set itself into the wood. You will see it alot when it is one week HS bowls the next they dont. You will know because guys will come in with stuff for the drier lanes but they would end up needing there normal stuff.

I am sure things are different on synthetics but on wood this is something you see. I know because of what I have seen the past 2-3 years with the center I work in.
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Russell · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2008, 07:41:48 AM »

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yes... i wouldnt think it would be all that drastic just over night but i know we have oiled lanes... nobody bowl on them and a week later be able to walk on them like theres no oil on the lane
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MI 2 AZ · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2008, 11:41:10 AM »

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You have lanes that go a week without any play on them at all? How does your center stay in business?

I could see something like that happening in the summer. Some centers only open for part of the day or night and it's possible due to a lack of walk-in traffic, some lanes would never be assigned to open bowlers for quite awhile.

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lsf_21 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2008, 11:54:17 AM »

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quote:
yes... i wouldnt think it would be all that drastic just over night but i know we have oiled lanes... nobody bowl on them and a week later be able to walk on them like theres no oil on the lane
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You have lanes that go a week without any play on them at all? How does your center stay in business?
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blows my mind as well lol...
business has been slow b/c of summer... its a small 16 lane center in a small town... 3 leagues are 14 lanes which are our biggest thus 15-16 dont get used for league and nobody wants to ever bowl next to the wall when open bowling thus they still dont get used.
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EdKramarcak · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2008, 11:56:32 AM »

What a tool....

quote:
Normaly with older wood lanes (without guardian) the longer the pattern has time to sit on the lane the longer the shot will stay. This is because the wood much like our equipment have micro pores and when the oil can sit on them some gets taken in. The pattern then somewhat sets into the wood. That is why real old wood lanes have a track area and the track area can differ from house to house. Depending on how the pattern in layed down and how it is bowled on this all makes an affect. That is why old wood lanes get resurfaced. To remove and smooth out the indents from the guys who loft by the arrows and to help return the wood to a closer New installed reaction.

If you talk to bowlers who bowl in a house that has say highschool bowling that does the lanes for league after the HS bowling is done. The days that they have HS bowling at there center (wood center) the lane gets drier alot faster. Then ask them about the days they come in for there 6 oclock league when no HS bowling was done and the lanes were done 3-4 hours ahead of time. I bet everyone says it is like there lanes have more oil. This is because the oil had time to sit on the wood lanes and set itself into the wood. You will see it alot when it is one week HS bowls the next they dont. You will know because guys will come in with stuff for the drier lanes but they would end up needing there normal stuff.

I am sure things are different on synthetics but on wood this is something you see. I know because of what I have seen the past 2-3 years with the center I work in.
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Youngstown, Ohio
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2008, 02:13:17 AM »

Oil on the lanes, even on synthetics, at least changes when it lays dormant for some time. It also depends on the oil's viscosity - some more viscous oils are very stable, and the applied pattern not only remains "in shape" for longer periods when left alone, the pattern will also keep longer up under bowling traffic, and carrydown as well as oil in the pins can become an issue.
Thinner oils tend, from my experience and what I know, to settle/even out much easier, and dissipation seems to become an issue after longer periods of waiting, e .g. over night, esp. in the buffed areas.

Had this problem several time in league, when the lane crew is too lazy to prepare fresh lanes for Suunday morning 10 AM and just runs the lane machine the evening before and quits - while the lane/pattern is "fresh", ir really plays well only 1 or 2 games and then breaks down quicky, the track area bruning up quickly.

On the other side, I can hardly imagine that just 1 hour makes much of a difference, even with thin/fluid oil, then I'd rather blame it on high humidity which can have impressive effects on the lanes' grip level.
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Leftyhi-trak · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2008, 07:46:05 PM »

Many factors we have noted depending on the house you bowl in. Temperature of the lanes and also of the lane oil.** The warmer the oil becomes the ability to move is greater. (usually people say it dries out faster) The humidity in the air and also how much dust is in the air. These are just a few variables also depends on the machine and oil used.

** There is optimal temperature for oil adhesion but I can't remember that number sorry!!

strikealot · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2008, 08:03:04 PM »

can someone explain this phrase to me"what a tool"...i have seen it a few times but dont exactly know the meaning....hijack is over

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What a tool....

quote:
Normaly with older wood lanes (without guardian) the longer the pattern has time to sit on the lane the longer the shot will stay. This is because the wood much like our equipment have micro pores and when the oil can sit on them some gets taken in. The pattern then somewhat sets into the wood. That is why real old wood lanes have a track area and the track area can differ from house to house. Depending on how the pattern in layed down and how it is bowled on this all makes an affect. That is why old wood lanes get resurfaced. To remove and smooth out the indents from the guys who loft by the arrows and to help return the wood to a closer New installed reaction.

If you talk to bowlers who bowl in a house that has say highschool bowling that does the lanes for league after the HS bowling is done. The days that they have HS bowling at there center (wood center) the lane gets drier alot faster. Then ask them about the days they come in for there 6 oclock league when no HS bowling was done and the lanes were done 3-4 hours ahead of time. I bet everyone says it is like there lanes have more oil. This is because the oil had time to sit on the wood lanes and set itself into the wood. You will see it alot when it is one week HS bowls the next they dont. You will know because guys will come in with stuff for the drier lanes but they would end up needing there normal stuff.

I am sure things are different on synthetics but on wood this is something you see. I know because of what I have seen the past 2-3 years with the center I work in.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.

Tag Team Coaching Success Story.

Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD OF NEW IDEAS."

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Edited on 10/7/2008 8:07 PM

Author Topic: Do the Lanes Dry Out by Themselves? (Read 1486 times)

dicnic

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