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Juggernaut

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New plastic VS Old plastic
« on: December 15, 2019, 01:41:52 PM »
Long story, and I wont subject you to the rest of it, but lm going to end up throwing plastic a lot this year for strikes.

 If you were given the choice, would you choose a brand new white dot, or an older one (as in 1990 model)?

 I’ve seen a lot of the newer ones cracking out around the holes pretty quickly, but I’ve got an old one I bought at a yard sale a while back for a quarter (yes, a quarter).

 Which would you choose?
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2019, 02:20:20 PM »
Track Spare+ or the Hammer Black Widow plastic.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2019, 03:33:32 PM »
You didn’t answer the question
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2019, 03:40:24 PM »
Quote from: Juggernaut on December 15, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
Long story, and I wont subject you to the rest of it, but lm going to end up throwing plastic a lot this year for strikes.

 If you were given the choice, would you choose a brand new white dot, or an older one (as in 1990 model)?

 I’ve seen a lot of the newer ones cracking out around the holes pretty quickly, but I’ve got an old one I bought at a yard sale a while back for a quarter (yes, a quarter).

 Which would you choose?

Well my old white dot I had for more years than I can remember, must have been made of iron. The only reason I got rid of it was I dropped weight.

I have the Lime and Slime whitedot now which is a couple of years old and has a few cracks around the thumbhole. My girlfriend has a black/pink whitedot about 2yrs old broke out around the fingers.

Todays plastic balls are colorful and you can get some with a actual core. But they do seem to crack around the holes alot more.

I'm figuring on getting a new one soon, I'm dropping weight again. I'll get a today's ball, But I'll make sure to use a slug in the thumb. One's with slugs seem to do better around the tthumbhole (especially if you track close to the hole as I do).
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2019, 05:38:22 PM »
Quote from: Aloarjr810 on December 15, 2019, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Juggernaut on December 15, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
Long story, and I wont subject you to the rest of it, but lm going to end up throwing plastic a lot this year for strikes.

 If you were given the choice, would you choose a brand new white dot, or an older one (as in 1990 model)?

 I’ve seen a lot of the newer ones cracking out around the holes pretty quickly, but I’ve got an old one I bought at a yard sale a while back for a quarter (yes, a quarter).

 Which would you choose?

Well my old white dot I had for more years than I can remember, must have been made of iron. The only reason I got rid of it was I dropped weight.

I have the Lime and Slime whitedot now which is a couple of years old and has a few cracks around the thumbhole. My girlfriend has a black/pink whitedot about 2yrs old broke out around the fingers.

Todays plastic balls are colorful and you can get some with a actual core. But they do seem to crack around the holes alot more.


True. How expensive is it to patch around the holes? If it's cheap and a durable fix go with what you have. I personally have a newer hammer widow spare with not too many games with this problem. I wouldn't buy another one until the quality come up... I'm hoping Brunswick does a spare ball with DOT to fix this.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2019, 05:42:05 PM »
I've never had this problem, and I don't bevel my finger holes. We'll see how durable our 900 Global poly is.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2019, 06:21:46 PM »
Old white dots tended to be towards the middle of the spectrum hardness wise so I don't think it will matter much.  The edge to older polyester was being able to get either super soft (Yellow Dot bleeders) or super hard (old Blue Dots over 90 hardness).  I would probably look at getting something with a core though because its makes a difference for sure.  I use the Pyramid Pathogen Blue Dot as my spare ball and can't recommend it enough and can get it for $75.  It has a little lower diff than BW but a higher int diff to diff ratio also.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2019, 06:23:29 PM »
If you don't mind throwing a plugged ball I would use the old white dot.

I know of no advantage the new pancake weight block plastics would have over the old ones.

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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2019, 06:51:27 PM »
Quote from: Remmah on December 15, 2019, 03:33:32 PM
You didn’t answer the question

Have you seen a 30 year old version of either ball I suggested?
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2019, 06:53:33 PM »
Quote from: Impending Doom on December 15, 2019, 05:42:05 PM
I've never had this problem, and I don't bevel my finger holes. We'll see how durable our 900 Global poly is.

Is it made in china the same as other plastics? 
If so why would it be any different
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2019, 07:07:57 PM »
Quote from: ignitebowling on December 15, 2019, 06:53:33 PM
Quote from: Impending Doom on December 15, 2019, 05:42:05 PM
I've never had this problem, and I don't bevel my finger holes. We'll see how durable our 900 Global poly is.

Is it made in china the same as other plastics? 
If so why would it be any different

I can't speak to where they're made, but rumor had it they're up there on the hardness scale, Last clear poly ball I had was the Track Flaming T, and that never cracked.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2019, 07:10:35 PM »
I know Motiv makes their spare ball in the USA but its a polyester urethane blend.  I thought 900 did too (why its significantly more expensive) but could be wrong.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 07:47:14 PM »
Quote from: BowlingForDonuts on December 15, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
I know Motiv makes their spare ball in the USA but its a polyester urethane blend.  I thought 900 did too (why its significantly more expensive) but could be wrong.

The Hammer Tough is Polythane also
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2019, 08:11:56 PM »
My understanding anything plastic not blended is made in two places. Neither are in the U.S.
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Re: New plastic VS Old plastic
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 10:08:33 PM »
Old with the shine knocked off.   Especially if it’s a Caramel.
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