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charlest

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The THS
« on: December 13, 2010, 01:29:10 PM »
While I always suspected it was true in theory, I never, in my heart, believed it could be true to the degree I discovered today.

I'm talking about the potential for a house oil pattern, often called "The Great Wall of China", to hid the difference between a large range of balls and ball reactions. I went to one of the centers in which I bowl league to just throw a few games of practice and to start testing a new ball I got, called the Theory.

Now there's little doubt that the Theory is designed to handle some fairly heavy oil. I also brought 2 medium oil balls, one solid and one pearl, because I intended to change the type of line I have been playing in this house. I wanted to see how they'd do and how they'd compare to one another. The 4th strike I brought was one which handles some of the lightest oils, the Slingshot.

The Theory wasn't the best fit but I found a release and ball speed and line where I could strike and feel somewhat comfortable. The 2 medium oil balls were also fine. Of course I didn't play as deep with them as I did with the Theory. It had the stock surface. Lastly, came the Slingshot. I hadn't used it here in 2 months but I played much further outside and again it was easy to find a comfortable line to play.

An added benefit to this excursion was that I had to wait until they oiled the lanes for the day. It was about 1:00 PM or so.

Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but it would never occur to me to carry a set of balls that would handle as wide a range of oil amounts as the Theory to the Slingshot. When I loaded up all these balls at home, I expected to use either 2 or 3 of the mildest ones or the medium ones.

This whole scenario did not cross my mind until just now, 11:30 PM at night, about 10 hours later. That it even happened at all is shocking to me. I never thought I'd see so much potential to use such a range of balls on a single oil pattern.
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Re: The THS
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 12:06:37 PM »
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Part of our problem here in NJ is you can't trust the non-bowling managers to tell you the truth


B.S.!  Why would they want to bother engaging in conversation with some guy who isn't going to believe them anyways?  Go get a tape machine and measure the oil yourself if you don't believe them.  Such total B.S.
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Again, I could care less what you think about what I said. You wanted to know what the situation was that I encountered. Then you have the gall to call me a liar? I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you on any level.

I suppose it serves me right for even trying to enter into a rational conversation with such as you. You've only sidetracked the whole concept behind my original post to make it all about your criticizing anyone who doesn't agree with you. Bye!
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Re: The THS
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 12:35:55 PM »
maybe you should ask some of the 'experts' over a bowlingchat.  I heard they are very smart over there.

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Re: The THS
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 12:42:35 PM »
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I suppose it serves me right for even trying to enter into a rational conversation with such as you. You've only sidetracked the whole concept behind my original post to make it all about your criticizing anyone who doesn't agree with you. Bye!
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Wait, there was actually a concept to all this rambling?  I had thought you just wanted to tell everyone that you finally came out from under your rock and discovered what everyone already knew about house shots.
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Re: The THS
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 12:58:08 PM »
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Now on sport shots, ball selection has and always will be very important.
This is the problem with sport bowling as it is today. It should not be about which ball you have/use. Sport bowling needs to take the equipment factor out of the game and let the "Talent of the Bowler" be the deciding factor, not which ball he has at his disposal.

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just get the ball off my hand clean and with as little lift at the bottom as possible
This is another thing wrong with the game. There's too much friction, so when you do nothing to the ball, and/or have a weaker release, you score better. This is backwards. You can do too much and have it work out to be less strong, but this is not what I'm referring to. =:^D
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Re: The THS
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 02:08:05 PM »
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Now on sport shots, ball selection has and always will be very important.
This is the problem with sport bowling as it is today. It should not be about which ball you have/use. Sport bowling needs to take the equipment factor out of the game and let the "Talent of the Bowler" be the deciding factor, not which ball he has at his disposal.


I would have to disagree with this statement.  
It may hold true for maybe one game, but over 3 or more games the better talent will almost always beat the lesser talent.  
A good example is to watch Regionals when they go to certain houses.  Check out where the local Non-regional guys tend to finish.  I know for a fact that a lot of these guys have just as many bowling balls as the normal Regional guys, if not the same exact bowling ball.  The talent is still making matchplay and cashing every time.  

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just get the ball off my hand clean and with as little lift at the bottom as possible
This is another thing wrong with the game. There's too much friction, so when you do nothing to the ball, and/or have a weaker release, you score better. This is backwards. You can do too much and have it work out to be less strong, but this is not what I'm referring to. =:^D


I also disagree with this one.
As with anything, the best adapt with the change of Technology.  And of course as with anything, technology is going to happen.

Plus I ask you, how many 200 rev players do you see winning on TV every week, or even making it into matchplay for that matter. When bowling on the tougher patterns it's still a lot about playing the correct part of the lane, and getting the right roll on the ball.  Yes choosing the right ball is a big factor also, but it's the players that get to that ball quicker that are usually the more talented already.
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