win a ball from Bowling.com
« previous next »
Pages: [1]

Author Topic: Help a man out here...  (Read 1884 times)

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Help a man out here...
« on: November 28, 2004, 09:48:11 AM »
Can you guys tell the drilling of a ball by a picture? If so, what do you think of this ball.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjY1MDE1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

I hope you guys can download it. I can download it, I just tried so hope you can too.

Edited on 11/28/2004 6:47 PM
Logged

 

TheBowlingKid25

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6133
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 05:51:19 PM »
thats a stacked drilling. Basically its a skid/snap drilling.
--------------------
16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is! The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
Logged

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2004, 06:13:19 PM »
How do you tell? I asked them to drill it 1L by Brunswick's drilling.
Logged

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2004, 06:28:24 PM »
Well actually I think that extra hole is my PAP, I'm not sure.
Logged

charlest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24524
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2004, 06:28:50 PM »
quote:
How do you tell? I asked them to drill it 1L by Brunswick's drilling.


The answer is you can't, UNLESS we know your positive axis point, or PAP. It looks like the driller just copied the 1L picture with respect to your finger and thumb hole. While it may be close, it may not be; there's just no way of telling.

In general, a specific drilling is the distance from pin to PAP, plus CG distance to PAP, plus pindistance above the midline. Only after that is done, can you refer to the pin and the CG's position with respect to the finger holes and the thumb hole.

However, note also that for the vast majority of us, close enough is good enough. On the other hand any conscientious driller will make the effort, if you specify exactly what you want, to find your PAP and drill it as exactly as he can.


--------------------
"When we choose an action,
we also choose the consequences of that action.
Logged
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2004, 06:32:48 PM »
He looked at my track and said it was a spinner's. That probably because my fingers come over the ball a lot. If I have fixed that, and the PAP is in the wrong place, would that effect the drilling if it called for an X-hole on the PAP?
Logged

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2004, 06:37:37 PM »
Sorry I'm not a technician but can you tell if the ball is drilled 1L by the picture without knowing stuff like my PAP, etc? I'd like to know since I asked them to have it drilled 1L. My mom thinks they screwed up and wont admit it. Before I had it re-drilled, it was 1E and it basically did nothing. Either rolling out by the arrows or just hooked about 3 inches in medium-heavy oil. Honestly, I dont know what the drilling is.

Edited on 11/28/2004 7:36 PM
Logged

charlest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24524
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2004, 06:40:44 PM »
quote:
He looked at my track and said it was a spinner's. That probably because my fingers come over the ball a lot. If I have fixed that, and the PAP is in the wrong place, would that effect the drilling if it called for an X-hole on the PAP?


Sorry; your question confuses me.

If your PAP is different from the one for which your ball is actually a Brunswick "1L" drilling, then, depending on how different it is, the ball may react very differently than intended or only very slightly different.

A weight hole can affect the ball's reaction compared to no weight hole, again, to a slight degree or to a larger degree, depening on its position and size and how the ball is currently reacting.
 
If you are a spinner, that drilling is definitely not a 1L. A spinner's track is further from the holes, so his PAP is, generally closer to the holes. In fact, it could be directly under the pin's current, as drilled position. Inthat case, this would be a length drilling, with a potentially strong backend, due to the pin being, as it appears in the picture, roughly 3-4" from PAP, if the PAP were straight over from the center of the grip.

As you can see, there are a ton of factors involved.

--------------------
"When we choose an action,
we also choose the consequences of that action.
Logged
"None are so blind as those who will not see."

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2004, 06:56:09 PM »
Thanks. I dont know what's up with the drilling. Looking at the picture of 1L, my ball is not going to look like that right, because my style is probably different from that particular ball. For example, PAP, etc. Or should it look like the picture?
Logged

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2004, 07:01:24 PM »
On one of those sights I think was ourworld.compuserve something, it shows a spinner release, I have nothing like that! My fingers come around the ball a little more than normal I guess. I thought I had a track worked into the ball, but I must have cleaned it off or something.

On a different topic, would that ball, as you see it, be able to take on heavier oil. I'm a stroker?, medium low revs, throw abot 15-17 mph.(slow maybe 14.5 when I have trouble hooking it).
Logged

kingpin268

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1680
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2004, 07:29:02 PM »
Sure I love the reaction, just tried it out last week after league. Cleared the heads, revved up in the midlane and a strong arc to the pocket. Pretty powerful hit I must add. About the driller, he has never seen me bowl which I think may be the problem. To me the reaction looks the Ravage that Wiseman threw in the ABC Masters. Even if it doesn't handle heavy oil like i want it to, i probably wouldn't change it just it looks perdy!
Logged

Lane1Redneck

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 806
Re: Help a man out here...
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2004, 07:59:39 PM »
Kingpin.. looks like 1L.. same as mine except mine don't have the X hole.. standerd skid/snap
--------------------
Bowling is the real X games

JEFF
Logged
Pages: [1]
« previous next »