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charlee323

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Help with lane conditions
« on: April 01, 2004, 01:01:38 AM »
I have struggled all year at my alley.  It is a 42 ft pattern on 10 year old guardian heads with clean backends.  Oil is thick from 10 to 10, bone dry outside. I have thrown a monster slayer, ebonite low flare stinger and track dry heat with numerous cover adj. and drills; playing between 8 and 10.  I have thrown a trauma recovery, visionary g-3 and icon 2 to swing 15 to 10.  I have had no luck with this shot.  Any suggestions on how to play this type of shot?

 

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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2004, 07:25:16 PM »
please provide layouts.
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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2004, 07:47:03 PM »
slayer pin @2:00 cg in palm
stinger pin @1:00 cg in palm
dry heat pin over ring finger cg in palm
trauma recovery 3 1/2 stacked
icon 2 4 x 4
g-3 3 1/2 x 4
I hope this is enough information

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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004, 08:15:37 AM »
Sounds familiar.  We have a house nearby with the same conditions.  Plenty of oil inside, but not to your length, and "Cactus and Tumbleweeds" on the outside.  Not enough hook, too much, not enough, too much,......

I have had my best luck starting out with a highly polished pearl particle with the pin on the PAP and then going to a polished reactive when the carrydown starts.  But the ball is only a small part of the answer.  Speed control is the most critical factor.  You need to really let 'er rip on the down the outside boards shot, or be gentle but consistant on the deeper inside shot.  If you are slow down outside and try to make up for it with weak equipment, it gets doubly hard.  Inside, you need to get the ball farther outside at about 40 feet to use the "bumper".  Playing tight inside is too much work for a so so bowler like me.

Some people just eat this shot up so it can be done.  Some people can fluff an agressive ball with speed down and in and some people can crank up a shot through the oil but unfortunately we seem to be neither.  Just think speed control!  Hope this helps a little bit.

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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004, 06:41:48 PM »
Sawbones:  It really seems that the high speed (18-20) and the low speed (13-14) seem to score more consistent with this shot, especially high speed and revs.  Left handers tear the shot up.  Now I can only repeat shots (15-16), when I try to throw faster I miss my mark and timing is off; and slower I just can't repeat, definately something I need to work on.  I appreciate your input.
Splitz:  Thanks for the input, I was recently told to use a polished particle drilled 4 1/4 x 4 1/4 and play between the 2nd and 3rd arrow as sawbones said and it should handle the shot.
The reason I am asking is there is one week left and we are one game out of first and it's position round.  thanks for the replies.

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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004, 06:57:03 PM »
Two options with your physical game appear...

1. To play the crease...up 10 with a ball and layout that will not over react when you get it out to 8 early.

2. As Bones illuded, to 12/13 at arrow to 10/9/8 at the of the oil. This ball will have to be something more aggressive both in cover and layout.

The trick to playing shot 1 is to have a ball that when you pull the ball to 11/12 it will skid to the pocket. This is usually possible with polished reactive balls for a player as you describe. The problem with this shot, it that cary is sensitive to oil carry down. I usually start with a stronger ball and less hand and as the oil carries down I tend to get stronger with the hand. Consider layouts that arc more for this type of shots (mass bias in the ttrack side).

The problem with 2 is that must players are in there and you have contection in the midlane for blowing a hole in the condition. Since you already are using a stringer ball and typically a strong release, you are limited to changing to more aggressive equipment as you have to move in. Consider flip layouts for this type of shot. (mass bias in the strong position).

It is almost always preferable when faced with fresh heavy oil to use dull equipment. But playing the crease as in line 1 might be a polished ball.
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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2004, 06:57:05 PM »
Two options with your physical game appear...

1. To play the crease...up 10 with a ball and layout that will not over react when you get it out to 8 early.

2. As Bones illuded, to 12/13 at arrow to 10/9/8 at the of the oil. This ball will have to be something more aggressive both in cover and layout.

The trick to playing shot 1 is to have a ball that when you pull the ball to 11/12 it will skid to the pocket. This is usually possible with polished reactive balls for a player as you describe. The problem with this shot, it that cary is sensitive to oil carry down. I usually start with a stronger ball and less hand and as the oil carries down I tend to get stronger with the hand. Consider layouts that arc more for this type of shots (mass bias in the ttrack side).

The problem with 2 is that must players are in there and you have contection in the midlane for blowing a hole in the condition. Since you already are using a stringer ball and typically a strong release, you are limited to changing to more aggressive equipment as you have to move in. Consider flip layouts for this type of shot. (mass bias in the strong position).

It is almost always preferable when faced with fresh heavy oil to use dull equipment. But playing the crease as in line 1 might be a polished ball.
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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2004, 08:19:21 PM »
pin-chaser: thanks for the info, I will look in the basement and see what I have and maybe I can adjust the cover to get the desired reaction.

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Re: Help with lane conditions
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2004, 12:21:03 AM »
let it slide out and turn.

we have a local AMF house that oils gutter-to-gutter, 42 feet. their reasoning: new balls eat up the lanes. i am second shift and its slick as owl crap!
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