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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: rollingthunder on August 06, 2015, 09:56:26 AM

Title: Norm Duke
Post by: rollingthunder on August 06, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
I had the great pleasure of bowling in a pro-am yesterday with Norm Duke and what a super nice guy he was. I could tell he really enjoyed talking with and helping the amateur bowlers and wasn't just going through the motions. Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 06, 2015, 12:28:11 PM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Brandon Riley on August 06, 2015, 12:31:46 PM
If Norm Duke offered me coaching I'd listen
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: xrayjay on August 06, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
Yeah he is...

I had just returned to the game of bowling after 15 yrs away and was at an event in Tacoma Washington which I had no clue it was a PBA event. I was just leaving the alley and we passed each other and he turned and said.. "The show is that way." And gave me a thumbs up! Then I realized it was him! Lol

A year later, I saw Ryan shafer...he on the other hand..... He was pumping gas and I called out his name and waved, he just gave a stink eye and mugged me with his face... My friend said PDW just beat him earlier that day..
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: rollingthunder on August 06, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
If Norm Duke offered me coaching I'd listen
Totally agree. 
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: xrayjay on August 06, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.

Since you bowl with the pros more than the average person, you must be in another level. But we joe bowler, most likely will accept the tip and advices from legends like duke. If someone like you came up to me, I'd listen to see if you have something useful or not. If not, I'll kindly tell to shhhhh....
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 06, 2015, 01:59:52 PM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.

Since you bowl with the pros more than the average person, you must be in another level. But we joe bowler, most likely will accept the tip and advices from legends like duke. If someone like you came up to me, I'd listen to see if you have something useful or not. If not, I'll kindly tell to shhhhh....

I bowl in Pro-Ams at least once per year.  It doesn't matter if it is Norm Duke or "House Bowler Joe".  Keep your unsolicited suggestions and tips to yourself unless someone asks for your help.  Sometimes it can be more detrimental to someone's physical or mental game to start suggesting things that they may not even think are issues.

There are house bowlers at my center that do this constantly, and it actually drives people away from bowling on leagues with them.

I never go up to other bowlers and suggest anything.  Since I dislike it so much I don't do it to other people.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 02:24:28 PM
If you may have a coach...the other 'coach' may not know what you're working on this it can be counter productive...
I know Norm and he was meaning to help but I bet the other side too
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Azaelv on August 06, 2015, 03:11:28 PM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.

Since you bowl with the pros more than the average person, you must be in another level. But we joe bowler, most likely will accept the tip and advices from legends like duke. If someone like you came up to me, I'd listen to see if you have something useful or not. If not, I'll kindly tell to shhhhh....

I bowl in Pro-Ams at least once per year.  It doesn't matter if it is Norm Duke or "House Bowler Joe".  Keep your unsolicited suggestions and tips to yourself unless someone asks for your help.  Sometimes it can be more detrimental to someone's physical or mental game to start suggesting things that they may not even think are issues.

There are house bowlers at my center that do this constantly, and it actually drives people away from bowling on leagues with them.

I never go up to other bowlers and suggest anything.  Since I dislike it so much I don't do it to other people.

Agree with you, but hey, its Norm Duke, whatever he tells you, you better listen, the guy is one the best to ever throw a bowling ball! plus I'd take a picture
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
Having the ability to do something and understanding why as well as relaying are two very distinct different things...many only know what works for th and thinks it should for all
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: scrub49 on August 06, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
One of the world greatest bowler told an friend of mines that once you think you know everything about bowling you are in trouble.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 03:38:04 PM
No one knows everything more or less remotely close (:
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: scrub49 on August 06, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
I quit giving un-asked advice when someone told me he has an 165 average and knew what he was doing that's been aleast 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: EL3MCNEIL on August 06, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.

Since you bowl with the pros more than the average person, you must be in another level. But we joe bowler, most likely will accept the tip and advices from legends like duke. If someone like you came up to me, I'd listen to see if you have something useful or not. If not, I'll kindly tell to shhhhh....

I bowl in Pro-Ams at least once per year.  It doesn't matter if it is Norm Duke or "House Bowler Joe".  Keep your unsolicited suggestions and tips to yourself unless someone asks for your help.  Sometimes it can be more detrimental to someone's physical or mental game to start suggesting things that they may not even think are issues.

There are house bowlers at my center that do this constantly, and it actually drives people away from bowling on leagues with them.

I never go up to other bowlers and suggest anything.  Since I dislike it so much I don't do it to other people.

Comment 1: I wish I had the chance to meet Norm Duke. Hope you took advantage of it! He's one of my favorites and a LEGEND! Representing for us short bowlers lol.

Comment 2: This is a post about someone enjoying their meeting with Norm Duke. No need to add your two cents about something you don't like. That's your opinion. The OP obviously was glad that it happened, no reason for you to bring negativity to a post about something good that happened.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Azaelv on August 06, 2015, 06:07:35 PM
Comment 1: I wish I had the chance to meet Norm Duke. Hope you took advantage of it! He's one of my favorites and a LEGEND! Representing for us short bowlers lol.

Comment 2: This is a post about someone enjoying their meeting with Norm Duke. No need to add your two cents about something you don't like. That's your opinion. The OP obviously was glad that it happened, no reason for you to bring negativity to a post about something good that happened.
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Long live short bowlers :) 5" 7 here
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Bowlaholic on August 06, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
I have to admit I hate it when someone offers (unsolicited) a comment or tip on my game.  Especially after when you find out the person is a 150-160 bowler.
Putting that aside, Norm Duke can say anything he wants about my game and I would welcome it with open arms.  The gentlemen is one of the greatest bowlers on the planet.  I consider anything he says to me about my game an honor.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 07, 2015, 08:26:38 AM
...Without even asking he watched me bowl and gave me a great tip on my arm swing. He is a true ambassador of the game.

This kind of thing annoys me to no end.  If I ask for help, then by all means feel free to offer some guidance.  However, if I am minding my own business and don't solicit for help or guidance then please don't take it on yourself to start throwing out "tips". 

None of the pros I have ever bowled with have offered tips unless someone specifically asked them.  Then they were more than happy to watch the bowler and provide some ideas.

Since you bowl with the pros more than the average person, you must be in another level. But we joe bowler, most likely will accept the tip and advices from legends like duke. If someone like you came up to me, I'd listen to see if you have something useful or not. If not, I'll kindly tell to shhhhh....

I bowl in Pro-Ams at least once per year.  It doesn't matter if it is Norm Duke or "House Bowler Joe".  Keep your unsolicited suggestions and tips to yourself unless someone asks for your help.  Sometimes it can be more detrimental to someone's physical or mental game to start suggesting things that they may not even think are issues.

There are house bowlers at my center that do this constantly, and it actually drives people away from bowling on leagues with them.

I never go up to other bowlers and suggest anything.  Since I dislike it so much I don't do it to other people.

Comment 1: I wish I had the chance to meet Norm Duke. Hope you took advantage of it! He's one of my favorites and a LEGEND! Representing for us short bowlers lol.

Comment 2: This is a post about someone enjoying their meeting with Norm Duke. No need to add your two cents about something you don't like. That's your opinion. The OP obviously was glad that it happened, no reason for you to bring negativity to a post about something good that happened.

It is a public forum, open for comments and opining.  I made a follow-up comment about something everyone has experienced at one time or another while bowling.  No need to attack me.  It is great that the OP was able to meet and spend time with Norm Duke and had a positive experience. 
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: avabob on August 07, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
I never give unsolicited advice, and don't care to receive it.  Having said that I think a pro am is a situation where the majority of amateur participants would appreciate advice, and many might be hesitant to ask.   
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: milorafferty on August 07, 2015, 12:12:01 PM
I thought the purpose of a Pro-Am was for the Pro's to give the Amateurs a few pointers.
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: JustRico on August 07, 2015, 12:46:19 PM
The point of the pro am is interaction with the pros and ams...what that relates to would be up for interpretation
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: Aloarjr810 on August 07, 2015, 12:54:22 PM
from the PBA Rules:
1.3 PBA Professional-Amateur Events (Pro-Ams). Pro-Am events can be the most exciting part of
the tournament for hundreds of amateurs. It is extremely important that customers and fans walk away
with the feeling that the most valuable aspect of the experience was the opportunity to bowl with the
professionals. Members can help amateurs enjoy their experience by doing the following:
1.3.1 Shake Hands. Shake hands; make introductions, converse with the amateurs and offer
encouragement. A little conversation will go a long way toward creating a fan for life.
1.3.2 Bowling Tips. Offer some helpful instructions or tips and take the time to explain
technical points or terms that may be unfamiliar.

1.3.3 Trick Shots. Perform "trick shots" when the Professional's scores do not count.
1.3.4 Thank Amateurs. Thank the amateurs for the opportunity to have bowled with them
when the game is over. Expressing appreciation
Title: Re: Norm Duke
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 07, 2015, 09:46:00 PM
I got to meet Norm Duke in a pro-am and he truly was one of the nicest guys there.