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Pinbuster

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Scoring going nuts
« on: April 04, 2005, 11:42:01 PM »
I know this is a common refrain on the site but the scoring pace is just getting unbelievable around here.

I don’t know what has changed but honor scores are going thru the roof, particularly 800’s. They have obviously figured out a way to keep the lanes from changing drastically during a set.  

A friend of mine (who many believe to be the best amateur bowler in town) set the state record last week 889 (289, 300, 300). At another house this year he also shot an 858 (279, 279, 300). But he is not high at that house as someone else has shot 860+.

The city didn’t use to have more than one 840+ in a year. This year I bet there have been more than 10 840+ shot.

One house had 6 300’s shot in one week.

I saw today that ksucat shot another 300 last week, this has to make at least 5 for him this year. While he is an excellent bowler and I wish I had his game this seems like to much to me and I’m sure his name would not come up strongly in conversations for bowler of the year.

While 300 is a perfect score it is seldom a perfect game anymore and when you have 2 or 3 800’s shot in town each week they loose their luster as well.

A couple of these places are starting to score like Rev_o_lutions house.

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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 07:50:27 AM »
kinda like lowering the basket to 6 feet,..now every one can dunk.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 08:05:50 AM »
300 is not a perfect game?  Wha?

Where are Witchita???  I'm movin.

Is it lefty heaven or righty heaven?

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PS right now I'm in righty heaven.  The two centers I bowl in right now average just under 20 300s a year... on the right.  For the past 3 years 300 counts now stand at 120 righty vs 2 lefty for the combined centers.  Heaven..... Don't you think!
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 09:35:35 AM »
I dont believe there has been a increase in technology of lane conditioner or the patterns. I attribute the higher scoring pace observed all across the world is the fact that pro shop owners and bowlers are becoming proficient in understanding layouts and maximizing the ball potential. I have seen this year and have been proclaiming this year we will see a boom in award score numbers again despite the fewer bowlers. Having the correct ball in hand is an absolute requirement.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 09:44:11 AM »
You should bowl with us, we have had only two 300's in the last 4 years and no 800's!!! Lanes are not set up that way. Good pattern, no block.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 09:48:17 AM »
My local house in the UK has not had an 800 series and only 1 300 game in the 15 yrs its been open. Its not that its a hard centre to bowl in its more a case that if your not real flush in the hole you will leave a corner pin.  lately i have had a 270 with 2 flush 9 pins and a couple of 268's both with solid 10 pins.

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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 09:56:08 AM »
Everyone is scoring both left and right.

The question on whether a 300 is a perfect game or not is the very crux of the problem with the game (I hesitate to call it a sport) today as far as I’m concerned.

While many of the 300’s shot in the rubber/plastic era had a slightly wayward shot or two during the game most required 12 accurate well thrown shots.

Far too many of today’s 300 are, as I said, a perfect score but the game was not close to being executed perfectly. The lanes and balls simply funnel the ball to the pocket. Players vary speed, release and line from shot to shot and the conditions simply cover up their mistakes and many are blind to this fact.

I’ve had players tell me they are simply trying to throw it right of 15. If they did that they considered it a good shot. They might hit 15 to 8 and still strike.

I’ve had players tell me they are nailing what they are aiming at every time. You find out they are targeting a breakpoint but if you look at where they hit at the arrows they are hitting 5 different boards but the conditions funnel the ball to the breakpoint.

Bowlers know they have so much room today they can get loose and in reality start nailing their target. But that is difference between the real bowlers and wants to be bowlers; the real bowlers can get loose on the tough conditions as well and throw quality shots.

I fully fall into the house hack category. If conditions had stayed the same I probably would have never shot a 300 and most certainly not 800 in my life time.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 10:03:16 AM »
Every center provides it own scoring pace. Not all centers provide the highest scoring enviornments possible. It seems, that foreign countries are abit behind the US in matter of providing the highest possible scoring environment. However, neither of these statements are a bad thing as bowlers that rise to the top in there environments usually fair better than bowlers from higher scoring enviorments. Skills learned on tougher conditions make easier conditions look as easy as they are.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 10:49:58 AM »
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Every center provides it own scoring pace. Not all centers provide the highest scoring enviornments possible.


This new Brunswick Zone here in Denver just had its second 300 in the year it's been open.  No 800s...

The other Brunswick house I shoot at has maybe one 300 a month.

There's one house in town that's a scoring haven but everyone ridicules it because it's the exception.

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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2005, 12:03:14 PM »
Ed Henning.

He has dominated the local scene the last 10 years, won bowler of the year 4 times and probably will this year.

Others have done more on the National stage (Sean Rash for one) but I don’t know in league and local tournaments if they have done as much as Ed.  
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2005, 12:08:31 PM »
Just in!!! 15 year old boy shot 300 on Sat and 300 on Sun. Both sanctioned. Has a 167 average. Grants Pass, Ore.
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Pinbuster

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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2005, 01:21:42 PM »
I throw out Matt McFayden and Tim Penner because they toured last year and I believe they still have a PBA card.

Kelly would give Ed a pretty good run for the money and there are others. There is a wealth of amateur talent around because of the University programs.

The local paper did a survey last year and Ed was voted the best amateur in it and that was my basis for the statement.
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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2005, 02:50:05 PM »
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I don’t know what has changed but honor scores are going thru the roof, particularly 800’s. They have obviously figured out a way to keep the lanes from changing drastically during a set.


Maybe the "please come back next year" great wall of china that many houses put out about this time of year?

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Re: Scoring going nuts
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2005, 06:19:53 PM »
I was just talking to the sports memorabilia shop owner last Tuesday as he is keeping a board listing all 300's and 800's and putting pictures up along the wall.  He said there were (55) 300's and (25) 800's already this season.  This is a 48 lane house, but these numbers are just stupid.  I've talked with the manager about this and he loves seeing the big scores b/c people don't complain as much.  The only problem he is having is that they are giving away too many $100 bills for the first 300 and 800 for each person.  I'm estimating some, but they have probably given away $6,000.  That's a dent in their pockets, but they will continue giving them away.  The manager said he is hoping for more 299's.  Oh yeah, lefties, righties, 2 handers, blinds, hacks, toes, little old ladies and kids all hit this house.  Of the 50+ 300's posted, there are was surprisingly quite a few 1st timers as well as sub-200 average bowlers in that list.  

I am a hack, but I've even had (4) 300's at this place this season and 2 last.

The 889 by Ed was shot at another house that is almost as easy.  This same house had an 85? by another guy earlier in the year on this same pair of lanes.  Ed is an excellent league bowler with loads of talent, but by his own admission, he threw several goofy shots that he knows should not have struck.  

As Pinbuster said, Wichita has loads of amateur talent, but Ed is the best league bowler.  Others have as much skillz, but he takes more pride and simply tries harder during leagues than the others.  He has a shot at bowler of the year, but it will be tough even though he has (2) series over 850.
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