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mr300ny

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Number of Fingerholes requirement
« on: August 20, 2008, 07:06:51 AM »
I was just wondering cuz a buddy of mine said that it is legal to have four fingerholes in your ball, meaning all the normal three but one for the pinky. Is this legal? and if so, is there any limit to the number of fingerholes one may wish to use?
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Dan Belcher

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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 03:08:52 PM »
From what I understand, you can have a hole for all five of your fingers actually if you wish.  (Very, very, very few people of course actually do this)

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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 03:09:05 PM »
wth, I've never heard of something like that.
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 03:10:14 PM »
And i believe you may also have a vent hole for each as well so that means 10?
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 03:25:28 PM »
Here is a picture of my Storm Trauma ER. There used to be holes for all my fingers, but one is plugged now.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll254/cudaskater123/Bowling%20Balls/TraumaER.jpg
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 03:29:51 PM »
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And i believe you may also have a vent hole for each as well so that means 10?
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Plus an x-hole for balancing out static weights. AND my ball driller pointed out this fun trivia fact a few weeks ago.  You could technically have another hole, a now-outdated small punchmark hole that used to be useful for measuring the hardness of the cover to see if someone had been soaking their ball in a softening chemical agent.  So you can technically have 12 holes in a ball under certain situations.

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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 03:32:30 PM »
Due to arthritis my dad has five finger holes drilled in alot of his bowling balls. Total number of holes allowed is 5 finger, 5 vent, 1 weight and that little hole that the PBA puts in to ck ball, total of 12.
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 03:41:57 PM »
The rule further states that you must use every finger hole that is drilled. For instance, you can technically get DQ'ed for throwing your ball without your thumb in it, if you have a thumb hole drilled in the ball. Likewise, you have to have 2 fingers in the ball if there are 2 finger holes drilled (I found this one out from a buddy, as he used to throw at 10 pin with only 1 of his fingers in the ball plus his thumb...but someone gave him a warning at a tourney that he wasn't allowed to do that).

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PS...too lazy to look up the exact reading on the rule, but I'm sure it's either in the drilling legality section, or where they got the rule you can't bowl "out of the norm...ie. between your legs).
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 03:51:03 PM »
but even PBA pros don't "live" by that rule! I think of Billy Oatman (excuse me if it is missspelled) he threw the ball at the tenpin without even one finger in the ball.

Here the rule say that the hole has to be covered if not used... but not that every holw that'S drilled for a finger needs a finger in it at the delivery...


kinda stupid rule imho.... I see no point in that rule as long as the hole is in a serious position and can be used... why should I always?
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 03:54:30 PM »
If you don't have a weight hole in the ball you can take out one finger or the thumb because the extra hole then becomes a weight hole. That is why some no thumbers that have a thumb hole drilled to throw the ball straight don't get in trouble. The thumbhole acts like a weight hole to keep static weights legal.
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 03:57:16 PM »
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If you don't have a weight hole in the ball you can take out one finger or the thumb because the extra hole then becomes a weight hole. That is why some no thumbers that have a thumb hole drilled to throw the ball straight don't get in trouble. The thumbhole acts like a weight hole to keep static weights legal.
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true... I know a guy that goes no thumb and has a hole drilled in that position that's only 0.5 inches deep... just enough to get the ball some fingerweight... no way using that as a thumbhole

still this rul with using every single hole is stupid imho... just my 0.02
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2008, 04:09:02 PM »
Here ya go...

There is no provision in USBC specifications that would not allow a
ball to have 5 holes for gripping purposes which would include a thumb
hole and four finger holes (two each drilled conventional and
fingertip).  The equipment after drilling would have to meet all USBC
specifications for weight and balance to be used in certified
competition.

I hope this information is helpful in answer to your question.

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USBC Senior Rules Counselor
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The rule further states that you must use every finger hole that is drilled. For instance, you can technically get DQ'ed for throwing your ball without your thumb in it, if you have a thumb hole drilled in the ball. Likewise, you have to have 2 fingers in the ball if there are 2 finger holes drilled (I found this one out from a buddy, as he used to throw at 10 pin with only 1 of his fingers in the ball plus his thumb...but someone gave him a warning at a tourney that he wasn't allowed to do that).

Big Willy Style

PS...too lazy to look up the exact reading on the rule, but I'm sure it's either in the drilling legality section, or where they got the rule you can't bowl "out of the norm...ie. between your legs).
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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2008, 04:15:06 PM »
So what you're saying, is that you CAN'T have 3 conventional or fingertip finger holes drilled in a ball?!?

Quick, Cuda, hide the pic of your illegal Trauma ER!

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PS...I never said anything about the amount of fingers drilled into a bowling ball, I was talking about NOT using finger holes that ARE drilled into a ball. He was warned about this at Coca-Cola Youth Nationals years back!




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Here ya go...

There is no provision in USBC specifications that would not allow a
ball to have 5 holes for gripping purposes which would include a thumb
hole and four finger holes (two each drilled conventional and
fingertip).  The equipment after drilling would have to meet all USBC
specifications for weight and balance to be used in certified
competition.

I hope this information is helpful in answer to your question.

Sincerely,

Mark Grubich
USBC Senior Rules Counselor
(800)514-BOWL Ext. 3354
mark.grubich@bowl.com

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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2008, 04:17:15 PM »
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So what you're saying, is that you CAN'T have 3 conventional or fingertip finger holes drilled in a ball?!?

Quick, Cuda, hide the pic of your illegal Trauma ER!

Big Willy Style

PS...I never said anything about the amount of fingers drilled into a bowling ball, I was talking about NOT using finger holes that ARE drilled into a ball. He was warned about this at Coca-Cola Youth Nationals years back!




quote:
Here ya go...

There is no provision in USBC specifications that would not allow a
ball to have 5 holes for gripping purposes which would include a thumb
hole and four finger holes (two each drilled conventional and
fingertip).  The equipment after drilling would have to meet all USBC
specifications for weight and balance to be used in certified
competition.

I hope this information is helpful in answer to your question.

Sincerely,

Mark Grubich
USBC Senior Rules Counselor
(800)514-BOWL Ext. 3354
mark.grubich@bowl.com

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Re: Number of Fingerholes requirement
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 04:25:19 PM »
Exactly... that's why this rule about having to use them is bs
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