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lilpossum1

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plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« on: November 01, 2013, 03:12:35 PM »
I am considering picking up a spare ball that I can also use as a dry lane ball. I do not really need a spare ball as the only 10 pin I have missed flattening out my hand in the last few weeks was because my arm caught the keys I had clipped to my belt loop, so any of these would work. I am a little wary of urethane because I threw my dad's grenade after league one night and had an easier time keeping my 300c right of the headpin.  What are your opinions on this?

 

txbowler

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 03:29:20 PM »
For use as a dry lane strike ball, it all depends on how dry is your dry.

For me: plastic with core, carries better than straight plastic with pancake core.

Urethane for me will begin to read the fiction much sooner than any type of plastic with equal surface.

Thrown flat for a corner pin, either type of plastic works the same for me.  Urethane will again bite if it encounters friction so if you hit up or around it by mistake, it is not as forgiving in my opinion as plastic.

Now if your dry isn't that dry, your plastic may never really drive and you'll have poor carry that urethane may over come.

It just depends on how much friction you are dealing with when you say dry.

lilpossum1

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 04:28:18 PM »
My shots are usually medium-dry, medium, and medium wet. occasionally they touch on dry, but never heavy. I have seen desert dry once. (3 leagues a week)

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 04:57:25 PM »
This is just my opinion  but in my style of bowling my plastic moves allot more boards than my Urethane... I am using old Black hammer and its great on dry when everybody else is struggling and you can play tight with it on oil.. 

Thats my 2 cents..

lilpossum1

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 05:32:58 PM »
I am considering the true blood

avabob

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2013, 05:52:30 PM »
Interesting topic.  I have used 3 piece plastic, 2 piece plastic, and 2 piece urethane balls for both spares and as a dry lane option.  As a dry lane ball urethane is far and away a better option for me.  Carrydown is a problem for both, but I think it impacts plastic more.  Actually I like urethane better than plastic for my spare ball too.  Plastic will squirt in the oil, but still grab a bit off the dry sometimes.  Urethane typically won't squirt, and won't grab as hard on the dry as plastic might.  I have always been a good spare shooter, but I am better now than I have ever been since I went to urethane.

You will probably want to go to 4000 on a urethane ball that you use for spares, or even as a dry lane option.   
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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2013, 06:09:40 PM »
I don't carry a spare ball, I just flatten out whatever ball I'm using for strikes.  I can't get the same feel switching balls.  If I had to get a spare ball, I would use urethane since plastic squirts in the oil for me.

On the other hand, I do from time to time bowl two handed and I do not have enough speed to throw resin.  I know it defeats the purpose, but while I am learning, to keep the ball in play, I will throw anything from old old plastic to urethane.   On ths I ave 190 with urethane but 130 with resin.  When bowling two handed I shoot my spares one handed with urethane.

For my strike ball two handed I have used anything from an original blue dot (over 30 years old and hooks less than the white dot) to a white dot, buzzsaw xxxl (plastic with core) to two piece urethane (original blue hammer).  I don't know if it the cover or the core, but the xxxl hooks a lot more than a white dot.  On bowlingball.com all the plastic balls are rated a 5 on the hook scale but the two piece plastic taboo spare is a 50.  So I'm guessing some plastics hook more.  I think cause of the core, my xxxl also hits harder than a 3 piece plastic.  I also have one of newer generation urethanes (storm natural), but that ball goes way farther down lane than my blue hammer.

Since there are times when I need to throw plastic, I am also considering a true blood to replace my xxxl.

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2013, 09:18:16 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylplbarn8GQ

I bought a Groove Urethane (pancake weight block) this past summer to use as a spare ball/dry lane ball and love it. It is drilled on the most aggressive layout available.  It can hook with low speed and if you throw it normally it will skid forever. I used to use my strike ball for everything but on the drier lane conditions it really didn't work well on ten pins.


…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

lilpossum1

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2013, 10:01:47 PM »
Hmmm.....I will have to think about what I want to buy

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 12:11:27 AM »
Been trying to make this decision myself. I used to throw a plastic that had been lightly sanded for a dry lane/ spare ball. The ball seemed to bite a bit more than normal plastic but not over do it most of time.

I had thought of going to a Urethane ( new blue hammer since I mostly throwing Hammer now) but then I saw the True Blood with the core in it and thought about getting one of those and maybe sanding it down a bit too and see what happens.

There were times when I was just really struggling and I move down and in and just throw the plastic and damn if it didn't just crush the pins some times ( and that was an old Ace Supreme made in the 80s)

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2013, 07:17:51 AM »
I was on a dry wood lane shot for years
always searching for something to use
last year, ended up with the taboo spare ball which has a weight block
shot 803 with it there, buts its a desert outside of 10
carry is incredible.
i bet half that 10 team 3 man was using one by the end of the season
urethane reads the friction way to early on that lane condition

lilpossum1

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Re: plastic vs plastic with core vs urethane
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 07:54:17 AM »
Anyone know how the taboo spare and true blood compare?