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302efi

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Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« on: March 31, 2011, 12:51:04 AM »
  I see on here a lot of people say that older balls won't work or hook todays oil, but then I see companies reusing the same covers from years ago that supposedly won't hook anymore ?

For instance, Brunswick is still using PK18 on the Damage (and others) and look at the motion they create even on this "new oil" !?

Same thing with storm and Reactor & R2 covers. They are still using them even on todays supposedly slicker oil, and they move just like they did 4-5 years ago ?

Where are people coming from with these comments ?

I was getting back into bowling after a break and I was reading on here first before I even tried my old stuff again and it had me thinking I was going to need new gear again. After hitting the center a few times with my so-called outdated balls, they work just as good as they did when I bought them years ago !

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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »

 Some where there is oil, but most people don't seem to know were this "new oil" is that requires all the new biggest hooking sponges ever made. They buy the product that won't suit the condition they normally face, but more the hook the whole lane reaction they desire and end up with a ball they can not use to score very well with.

 

Then complain there isn't enough oil.

 

A very popular ball here has been the Freeze and others like it. It works on the house shot people face, and you can use it for three or more games with out it hooking the whole lane. Amazing concept.

 

 



Juggernaut wrote on 4/2/2011 8:35 AM:
So, what I gather from many of the comments here, is that we are caught in a cycle between ball manufacturers, oil manufacturers, and our own greed and stupidity.


 


 Ball makers continually come out with more and more aggressive balls. To combat this, oil manufacturers continually come out with newer and slicker oils. Lanemen, in order to create reaction patterns, have to continually adjust the volume of oil applied to the lane.


 


 Then, because the balls are now little more than sponges, and lanes are so thickly coated in oil, that we have balls that start losing their reaction after only 5-10 games that cost 5 times what they used to, needing to be replaced twice or more in a single season.


 


 This is a good thing?


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Juggernaut

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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 02:49:54 PM »
kidlost2000,

 

 We have the opposite problem here. Bunch of weak wristed, puss-knucklers as Mo Pinel calls them, dump their hook monsters right up the track, then cry about the lanes being TOO oily.

 

 In the meantime, my feet are already 10 boards left of the last dot playing pretty deep and can't keep my Euphoria and Orbit Extreme to hold long enough to hit the right side of the headpin.

 

 

 Oh yea, I forgot. It's not that they don't know how to bowl, its that I need to learn how to. As many times as I've been told that, you'd think I would remember it by now. Sorry.
 
Edited by Juggernaut on 4/2/2011 at 3:16 PM
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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 03:06:30 PM »
This makes me wonder if I should take out the old Cuda/C to give it a whirl...


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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 03:51:17 PM »

 I just rolled a 242 with my Radical Inferno again last night.  front 7...9spare....then a freakin split...that of course I didnt get.  Another strike and then a 9 spare.  And I promise you, this ball is beat up!!! LOL!
tommyboy74 wrote on 4/2/2011 3:06 PM:
This makes me wonder if I should take out the old Cuda/C to give it a whirl...




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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2011, 06:37:05 PM »
I use my dad's old Columbia Xtreme Chaos sometimes as well. Turns just as well for me some nights as my Virtual Energy.

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Re: Old balls and new oil...you lie !
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2011, 08:40:57 PM »
On our tougher-shot sport league (Kegel patterns), I've been using a Columbia 300 Reaction Roll the last couple of weeks.
 
Also carry an old AMF Pro XS II to THS leagues for use late in a block. And I have to use it quite frequently, thanks to there being no oil left in the track area after game 2, a direct result of 4-5 other people on the pair throwing Taboos, Widows, Missions, etc. And when they hit flat thanks to burn-up, they start complaining about there "not being enough oil." Hell, I've thrown plastic a couple of times this year.
 
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