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LuckyLefty

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Old tired out balls!
« on: October 22, 2004, 05:09:52 PM »
No.... bowling balls!

I saw this somewhere and thought it was oh so important.

Couldn't remember where then I found it in the notes of all the recent Brunswick drilling sheets in the NOtes on reaction maintenance.

This is from memory!
Note Oil soaked balls will react less in oil and less off dry then new coverstock or oil extracted balls.  If you are matching up well with an oil soaked ball on wet/dry or broken down lane conditions then do not oil extract as you will find you will now have over/under.

This should be in coverstock but I believe it is so important that for some it could make 30 to 40 pins a game difference.

Example.

I immediatel thought of my home house where so many bowlers are using old stuff and scoring and new stuff and the same guy struggles.

An example comes to mind of a guy with an old Tour Boss PEarl with about 2000 games on it. Someone says to me ... "Watch this guy he had an 837 in the summer leagues, he's trying a new triple X".

I watch and say to myself, "that guy can't average 165".

I stop by his league the next week and he finishes with 255 and 245 all over the lanes. I say, "where is your new triple X". He says, "thatis ashcan". "I can't break 170 with it" "But now my old Tour Boss pearl....

Interesting thought.

In this guys case the new ball lowered his average nearly 40 pins!

He continues to tear it up with this old weathered ball.  My it was so used I thought this pearl ball was a solid.

Talk about taming over/under!

rEgards,

Luckylefty

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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2004, 06:33:04 AM »
I know what you mean. I still hold on to my old El Nino Wrath for these same purposes. I sometimes hit wet/dry conditions that this ball will not over react on and have still lit it up for scores.

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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2004, 10:32:28 AM »
LL, there has to be more to the story than that.  Maybe the triple X wasn't drilled for his game. OR He was using it on the wrong condition.  OR He can't adjust inside or out.

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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2004, 10:53:31 AM »
Sadly I have to say these lanes are just highly overreactive and it is that simple.  He already plays a nice little swing shot with the tour Boss pearl and probably would have had to move his feet 10 boards more in to the oil to use the TriX.  A much more ineffective line on this house.

He HAS found the sweet spot in this house with the Tour boss and continues to pound them.  

Could he have gotten up near 200 deeper yes.  But not the sloppy 220 he is at!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2004, 02:55:34 PM »
Leftie -- I wonder what your friend might do with a Slate Blue Gargoyle?  --  JohnP
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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2004, 04:01:26 PM »
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LL, there has to be more to the story than that.  Maybe the triple X wasn't drilled for his game. OR He was using it on the wrong condition.  OR He can't adjust inside or out.

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Different balls for different conditions. I have a Triple-X which is by far my best ball and sometimes I have to use my old El Nino because it reacts better. Have to be open for change.  Just because you get a newly released "best ball ever" does not mean it will always score for you. And like above if ball was not drilled right then that's another problem all together.
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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2004, 08:31:34 PM »
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Sadly I have to say these lanes are just highly overreactive and it is that simple.  He already plays a nice little swing shot with the tour Boss pearl and probably would have had to move his feet 10 boards more in to the oil to use the TriX.  A much more ineffective line on this house.

He HAS found the sweet spot in this house with the Tour boss and continues to pound them.  

Could he have gotten up near 200 deeper yes.  But not the sloppy 220 he is at!

REgards,

Luckylefty


Well, isn't that the point of having different equipment?  If he was scoring well with an old worn out ball, why did he buy a new hook monster and expect to use it on the same condition?  Either he didn't know what he was getting into, or the proshop sold him much more ball than he needed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2004, 10:55:02 PM »
This is my dilema. I have an old-tired out Tour Power that I"ve been trying to replace for years. It's so good (in my game) thatI can't seem to use anything else. Trust me, I've tried other balls, nothing close yet. I saw that LuckyLefty said that a Track Crunch was similar and Bob Hanson said that Monster Brusier was similar. These are my next canidates in the replacement of my beaten up TP.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2004, 11:18:24 AM »
Brian362.

Do not confuse the Crunch, powerful and almost sharp backend with the smooth even tour power.  You would have to drill a lot of snap out of the Crunch to make it move like a tour power.  Not that similar really.

A smash/r from Brunswick is fairly similar in my book.

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LUckylefty
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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2004, 02:07:34 AM »
I agree about dead balls being great on certain conditions... but there's also talk that dead balls lose hitting power resulting in a lot of 10 pins and sometimes 8-10 splits.

I think that the ball reaction that a dead ball will give you on certain conditions is great... but what about carry? Would you run into problems there???



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Re: Old tired out balls!
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2004, 06:20:54 AM »
Sounds to me two things in play here.

Guy LL mentions wants to play the dry on an over under wet/dry pattern.  

1) Uses the old worn out ball to tame the over reaction.
2) Carry is better in this house on a down and in trajectory.

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