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Title: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 18, 2008, 12:29:07 PM
is anyone in the new york area suprised to hear olympic lanes is going to close on july 13. Do you think it was amf fault or bowling in general just curiuos to see what people think. guess lilac will have to find a new center to host doubles and singles.
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: hammermike2000 on June 18, 2008, 08:35:29 PM
Olympic, that used to be run by Marcel, in the Rochester area?
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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slap on June 18, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
WOW I was just there a couple weekends ago.
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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 18, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
yes its a 80 lane center and marcel used to run it
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Brian Green on June 18, 2008, 08:50:33 PM
its a shame...... thats were the pba used to go all the time when they were in rochester, ny     that center was a nice place when marcel owned it but amf ran it into the ground....
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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on June 18, 2008, 09:02:01 PM
Not Suprised. House too big. Most of the lanes were burnt as toast. I know they popped down some new ones 4-5 years ago but can easily understand the closing, 80 lanes tough to fill and  very expensive to maintain. They'll just use Terrace Gardens and Gates which have been used on and off for 15+ years.
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 18, 2008, 09:10:40 PM
They had alot of good bowlers come out of olympic and it was always fun to see the pros. its sad to see it go down towards the end alot of trouble in that place i would say its downfall is amf and the trouble that would go on in there during the weekends never experienced it first hand but heard stories
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 19, 2008, 07:07:03 AM
we have alot of amf centers in the rochester area  wonder if any one of them are doing as bad as olympic was
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 19, 2008, 07:07:06 AM
we have alot of amf centers in the rochester area  wonder if any one of them are doing as bad as olympic was
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Pizzaguy on June 19, 2008, 12:05:06 PM
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we have alot of amf centers in the rochester area  wonder if any one of them are doing as bad as olympic was


AMF is running bowling into the ground here in Rochester.

Clover Lanes and Bowl-a-Roll are doing fine. As is Empire, I think. AMF Fairview just tossed out all of their Thrusday-Sunday leagues to go all open bowling.

Olympic has been a dump for 20 years. The only thing keeping it open has been the revenue from the Lilac. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Lilac folded also. I bowled a squad 2 weeks ago that had MAYBE 15 doubles pairs. Entries are way down again, and they have slashed the prize money this year.

It's the end of an era for tournament bowling.

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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Phoneman on June 19, 2008, 12:17:54 PM
This is why I wont bowl in any place that has AMF on the front door.  They are terrible for bolwing....
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 19, 2008, 10:28:34 PM
i wont bowl the lilac they keep way to much money for expenses and the lineage is also insane.  If its true about fairview they wont last much longer either
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Astroman on June 19, 2008, 11:46:44 PM
AMF is a terrible company period.
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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: dpunky on June 20, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
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AMF is a terrible company period.
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I agree.  We need to add that the AMF management of centers, and the whole regional management systems is terrible.
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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 20, 2008, 12:26:50 PM
not sure the center is going to be brought out and pinbusters proshop is located inside olympic. but this is a center with 80 lane beds and at one point when i was a kid i rember that place use to hop all the time. maybe marcel needs to come back and revive it. maybe somebody will try to save it but its going to take alot of work even if they kept 40 lanes that would be more than enough a liltte tlc it could once again be a great place to bowl.
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Pizzaguy on June 20, 2008, 01:29:00 PM
It will not be a bowling center. RG&E (electric utility) has been after that property for years to expand their Operations Center. I'd be shocked if it doesn't end up that way.

AMF Fairview has terminated their Thursday-Sunday leagues, a number of them (well, at least one) has moved over to Clover. I agree, I think it's a very shortsighted move. But do you really expect anything else from AMF?

It's going to be tough for Shullek to find a place as Begnrs to Pros have almost every center locked up already. I hope he finds somewhere, if only to keep this from being a 1 proshop town.

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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 20, 2008, 04:56:13 PM
to be honest pizza man not really amf is like any big corporation all they care about is the money  and people will not spend money to bowl in subpar conditions. I hope joe finds a place  he has gates maybe he could get into bowl a roll if he still wants two locations. its just sad to see the way bowling has gone down hill and to see this what has happened with companies like amf running centers you can see why bowling is in a decline
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Astroman on June 21, 2008, 02:11:19 AM
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AMF is a terrible company period.
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I agree.  We need to add that the AMF management of centers, and the whole regional management systems is terrible.
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Ha!  I have first hand knowledge of that, Dpunky.  The GM and F+B manager at my center are freakin' useless.  The GM was a manager at a big name, fast food type establishment before he/she was given the position LOTS of experience in the bowling industry.  The Food and Beverage "manager" is a joke.  I think his/her salary should be switched to hourly.....boy it would suck because he/she would actually have to WORK and be in the building.  The snackbar runs out of food and supplies so often its become second nature to hear," We're out of (enter food, condiment, beverage or supply here)."

But unfortunately, I'm not about to leave my position.  I can't afford to start all over with a new career, so I guess I'm just along for the ride downward.

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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: SUNDEVIL23 on June 21, 2008, 07:54:07 AM
I have heard a lot bashing about AMF but no reasons. Why is AMF ruining bowling? Back it up.
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: tenpin477 on June 21, 2008, 11:28:18 AM
Astroman just did a pretty good job backing it up.
Leftyhi-trak did
Pizzaguy

Sundevil I think your just an AMF Fanboy that didn't bother to actually read anything in this topic lol.
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Smash49 on June 21, 2008, 12:11:50 PM
I'm hearing all kind of things lately about AMF.  One thing I heard is they turned away a 44 team friday night league in the Dallas area because they wanted to keep the center open for open play.  Two,  They are selling off centers in the east and the west.  and  Three, a center here in Oklahoma has been without a FM for over 6 months and the c mechanics also quit. Who knows things are always crazy but to turn away a 44 lane league???  

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Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: slipperyworm on June 21, 2008, 07:32:39 PM
this post is not meant to bash amf its telling facts of what we see, olympic when you walk in is dirty carpets messy bathrooms. gates bowl and empire here in rochester are not like that and there amf owned. but there are also a couple of amf centers here that charge 5.00 a game over the weekend. if your a family of 5 that wants to go bowling is gonna cost you. example shoe rental 5x3=15 for shoe rental bowling 3 games each 15.00x5 75.00 it just cost you 90.00 to take your family out thats insane and tha dosent include food or drink. and to throw leagues out thats crazy. they are a stable source of income. the usbc wants people to join leagues and bowl but how can they when they dont have a league to join beacuse the closest center or only center near them may be owned by amf and all they want to cater to is open play
Title: Re: olympic lanes closing
Post by: Astroman on June 22, 2008, 12:21:15 AM
My center has close to the same rates $4 on the weekends before 10pm, after that its $5 a game.  The rock n bowl is $16 plus tax a person 10-1am during the summer.  I don't know what the rates are during the week, but its pricey.  Its unbelievable that parents and people spend that much to bowl.  But corporate makes the prices, not us.
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