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strikestriketapped

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Staying behind the ball
« on: September 24, 2006, 06:16:51 AM »
Bowled a tournament today and got the crappiest carry in the world. And I know it's because I suitcase the ball. I just can't seem to stay behind the ball but I know I'm strong enough to because I see a bunch of little girls that are able to do it. I'd really like to stay away from wrist supports. Anyone have any tips? And what exactly is staying behind the ball? Thumb at where? Thanks.
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strikestriketapped

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 03:29:47 PM »
Anybody?
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 03:39:49 PM »
I have the same problem sometimes. It's very important to relax the arm during the swing. The ball has to lead the hand from the top of the backswing. If you pull the ball down, it will move the hand to the side of the ball. My coach/friend tells me to wait on the ball to fall. If I can do it, my hand is right behind the ball. The ball rolls so much heavier, carry is rarely a problem. Caoches in BTM suggest to lead with the ring finger during the downswing. Just some things to think about.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 03:54:18 PM »
I have always tried to stay behind the ball and not come around it. The way I do it is, pre-set my hand the way I want to come out of the ball. You might want to try this tip a big time coach told me. Hold the ball down at your side, put your fingers at around 4-5 0'clock on the clock face, your thumb should be in the area of 10-11 O'clock. Stand at the foul line and swing the ball slowly back and then forth and then release it the way your hand was at the start.

Let your fingers come up thru the ball and don't go around it. If you do this slow enough at the line it will become second nature. It takes time to make a change, don't get discouraged. Let the ball roll and your hand will learn to stay behind the ball. I have done this for years and I do OK I guess.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 04:27:03 AM »
"Ring finger lead" - when the ball comes forward from the swing, push it a little "through" your ring finger. Stay behing the ball throughout the whole swing and release, as if you were chasing the ball with your ring finger pointing forward. Keep your wrist firm, whatever happens or how awkward it might feel. After the ball is gone, grab out towards your target.
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 08:05:47 AM »
This is the way that I learned to stay behind the ball. I balance the entire weight of the ball on my index finger throughout the approach, arm swing and delivery. If you can maintain the weight this way throughout........your hand will always be "behind" the ball.
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Sean John 369

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 10:48:14 AM »
Relax the armswing.  It's a difficult task.  I am currently working on staying behind it.  It has helped me out a lot..
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2006, 12:12:15 PM »
Just a thought, how firm is your hand at the point of release? It is hard to come around the ball if you aren't grabbing it some.
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2006, 03:11:58 PM »
About 10 years ago I went from holding the ball up in my initial stance to lowering it down to the side by my thigh. This eliminated the long pushaway and allowed me to free up my arm swing. It may not be for evetyone but it sure helped with my consistency.

I still have a pushaway but it's generated by my second step and is much tamer than when holding the ball up.

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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2006, 07:17:37 PM »
Dizzy, do you know of a site that has an article about leading with the ring finger?
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Re: Staying behind the ball
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2006, 12:01:26 PM »
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Dizzy, do you know of a site that has an article about leading with the ring finger?
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