Author Topic: is the 80% bowler thing true? (Read 1198 times)

bowlerstyle · « **on:** November 03, 2004, 11:50:45 AM »

Ok, I don't know the exact statistics or anything but I've heard that 80% of the game is left up to the bowler right??..... Well if that's true, that saying or statistic has been around for a really long time so my question to you is:

1. Do you think the 80% bowler aspect of the game is still true and explain.

2. If the 80% bowler thing is stands true, why do so many people buy so many bowling balls as soon as they come out when they should be spending the money and time on their own game instead(I understand staying updated maybe 1-2 balls a year but what about the people who buy 5+ balls a year)?

3. If you think that it isn't true, then tell me what you think it is really at and why.

This post is just to get some information for myself as my curiosity got the best of me. Who knows, maybe it might be useful to someone else out there. All serious answers are appreciated.

TwoFourEightNineNine · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2004, 08:05:15 PM »

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Ok, I don't know the exact statistics or anything but I've heard that 80% of the game is left up to the bowler right??..... Well if that's true, that saying or statistic has been around for a really long time so my question to you is:

1. Do you think the 80% bowler aspect of the game is still true and explain.

2. If the 80% bowler thing is stands true, why do so many people buy so many bowling balls as soon as they come out when they should be spending the money and time on their own game instead(I understand staying updated maybe 1-2 balls a year but what about the people who buy 5+ balls a year)?

3. If you think that it isn't true, then tell me what you think it is really at and why.

This post is just to get some information for myself as my curiosity got the best of me. Who knows, maybe it might be useful to someone else out there. All serious answers are appreciated.

Good discussion... on a roll.

1. 80% of a persons' success in bowling comes from the self is not true in my view. Actually, I think that 98.998% of a bowlers' success comes from themselves. Always is, always was.

2. We buy high-performance equipment because we bowl more to compete first (so success in my book is beating competition), and then get high scores . If my competitor bet me $10,000 and has high performance equipment ("steroids", you can call it), and I only have my white dot (I'm not juiced), I'd have no chance in most cases. So I guess we, at least for me, get high-level equipment because we need the 'roids to beat the competition.

Just a few of my opinions.
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-Jeremy Vitug

It is YOU who decides what happens on the lane.

bowlerstyle · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2004, 04:11:59 PM »

thanks Jeremy, anyone else have any insight on this topic?

janderson · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2004, 04:38:57 PM »

1. Is 80% of bowling the bowler?

Along the same lines as Jeremy, I'd say 98% of the game is the bowler. The other 2% comprises random chance.

2. If so, why do so many people buy so many bowling balls as soon as they come out when they should be spending the money and time on their own game instead?

There are probably as many reasons why people run out to get the latest-greatest as there are people who do so. For many (IMO) it is simple ignorance - not to be confused with stupidity, ignorance is not the same thing as stupidity. Some people think the latest greatest ball is a "silver bullet" that will improve their game. Others have told me that there MUST be some advantage to the newest equipment (over the older stuff) or else the manufacturers wouldn't keep releasing new stuff. Still others simply don't (truly) want to get better, they just want a new piece of candy. (the grass is always greener...) Probably the worst of the bunch are those that feel they're already "great" bowlers and the only reason they're not averaging 240+ and on the pro tour is because their current equipment "doesn't carry" or "hits like a marshmellow".

Aside from ignorance, some people, deep down, simply don't care to get better or don't have the passion for the game to subvert their ego and take the instructions and follow the advice of a coach.

Put the money where the mouth is: What about this bowler?
So far in the calendar year 2004 I've spent about $250 on new equipment, $500 on coaching, and about $700 on practice.

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Kill the back row (or maybe this should read "make your spares, dummy")

Edited on 11/4/2004 5:40 PM

janderson · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2004, 02:17:29 PM »

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Dont strokers/tweeners/crankers play better on different shots? Therefore, IMO, greater than 0.02 or 2% of the total score factor would be put down to lane conditions. (According to the numbers given in the post) That sounds like utter cr*p as people can have averages as far as 20-30 apart in different surfaces/ houses.

If you can repeat shots, you can score regardless of whether you're on a soft house condition or tossing your ball in the parking lot. Yes, conditions will cause a person's average and more than 20-30 pins in extreme cases, but tough conditions exploit the BOWLER's inability to repeat shots, the BOWLER's inability to adjust, the BOWLER's inability to bring their A-grade mental game, etc.

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Kill the back row (or maybe this should read "make your spares, dummy")

Edited on 11/5/2004 3:18 PM

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