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Title: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 09, 2007, 07:21:13 AM
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Edited on 3/9/2007 4:22 PM
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: pnj1967 on March 09, 2007, 03:23:53 PM
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 09, 2007, 03:25:43 PM
My bad... fixed.
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: CoachJim on March 09, 2007, 03:31:05 PM
NICE!

My proshop's Haus Machine has been down for about a year now, just got the parts in 3 weeks ago, but they all went to the nats and have been swamped with work since, so they haven't got it put back together yet.

Keep it clean.
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 09, 2007, 03:45:06 PM
Yeah I clean it every day before I close, and oil it first thing in the morning.
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: Greens Pro Shop on March 09, 2007, 03:49:01 PM
Very nice!  If this is your first time with one in the shop you will soon wonder how you made due without one..I like to think of mine as another employee!  You are smart to clean it and oil it every day..if you follow that routine you will be set...it's when shops negelct them and dont' stay up on them that problems can start.  Congrats!
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: MegaMav on March 09, 2007, 03:59:17 PM
Sweeet Bro!
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: qstick777 on March 09, 2007, 05:29:59 PM
How do you like it?

My shop has one (I think it's the Haus) but said he doesn't like to use it.  Said something about causing flat spots on the ball and it being quicker to resurface on the spinner.
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 09, 2007, 05:32:47 PM
So far so good!

If he is getting flat spots, then he needs to "motivate" the ball and its oscillation from time to time. Especially in a plugged ball...
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: DON DRAPER on March 09, 2007, 06:32:29 PM
nick you've already found out how great these are. resurfacing a ball is now the easiest thing to do----especially when you can walk away from it. it's practically idiot proof.
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 10, 2007, 10:39:43 AM
Had a rejuvinator, actually sold it about 2-3 years ago. Took up a lot of space on our plug work area. Might get another someday...
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: mrteach3 on March 10, 2007, 10:55:57 AM
Lane1,

That is the newer model of the Haus machine.  We have one too in our shop.  They made some very quality upgrades to the first model.  It runs smoother, stays cleaner, and truthfully does a better overall job.


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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: qstick777 on March 10, 2007, 07:30:38 PM
quote:
So far so good!

If he is getting flat spots, then he needs to "motivate" the ball and its oscillation from time to time. Especially in a plugged ball...
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Isn't the point of the machine to put the ball in and walk away?

He just mentioned that in his opinion is was quicker and easier to just use the spinner.  It seemed that he thought the Haus was too slow.  He mentioned something about since it makes the surface uniform, if there is plug work, it keeps turning the ball, more than needed for the other parts.  ????  I've never seen him use it, but I did see it there and asked about it.....he wasn't big on it.

He turned it on for me and I was surprised at how slow it actually turned.  From what I've read about them, the Haus (and Cook Sphere) look really nice and seem like they'd be a nice asset for a shop.

Just relating my discussions with my shop about the machine.
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsMike on March 10, 2007, 11:08:19 PM
From nicks pictures with the ball in the machine, the swirls are blurred. That looks like its moving fairly quick to blur the swirls like that.

Anyway, looks like a nice peice of equipment. If you dont mind me asking, whats something like that run in cost?

And another question, is that a Punisher or PBA Inferno in the machine??
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 11, 2007, 01:15:15 AM
It's my Attitude 3

Yes, you can just turn the knob and walk away, but when this machine is new, you can't help but stare in amazement. LOL
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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: Ramtart on March 11, 2007, 01:28:56 AM
Hey Nick!

Brotha, that's pretty cool. I've never seen this version of the Haus resurfacing machine. Looks like it has a shield that covers about 90% of the ball while it is rotating. Neato!
Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: qstick777 on March 11, 2007, 09:43:58 PM
quote:
From nicks pictures with the ball in the machine, the swirls are blurred. That looks like its moving fairly quick to blur the swirls like that.

Anyway, looks like a nice peice of equipment. If you dont mind me asking, whats something like that run in cost?

And another question, is that a Punisher or PBA Inferno in the machine??
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Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 197
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
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Retails for around $3500 - http://www.hsmproducts.com/parts.html
I've seen them for $3300 new, and $1900 used.

Jayhawk has a similar machine, but I don't know about their pricing: http://www.jayhawkbowling.com/Products/CSM.html


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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: Mike Austin on March 11, 2007, 10:36:20 PM
I bought a Haus machine when they first came out.  We thought it was sliced bread.  But, like Nick stated, you have to keep it clean for it to work at it's best.  We were having to clean ours every month.  By clean I mean, tear it down, clean it, put it back together.  This is about a 2-3 hour job.

Then I saw the Cooke Sphere machine.  It works better than the Haus or at least equally as well and you don't have to clean it nearly as often.   I provide the tension/pressure to the ball, and like the Haus you can walk away, but I never leave the timer for more than about 2 minutes.

Both machines turn pretty slowly, BUT it is like running THREE ball spinners on the ball at one time, overall these machines are very fast and very accurate.  You might be able to do a faster job on the ball spinner, but you won't be able to do as good a job.  Wet sanding on the ball spinner will tend to make flat spots bigger, and increase bevel around holes, plus on the spinner I can't walk away.  I'm drilling another ball while a ball is being resurfaced on the Cooke machine.

A resurfacing machine is almost a must for any medium to high volume shop.  It makes your plug work look great, and resurfacing a damaged ball is a snap.  Velcro is such an awesome invention, we use sandpaper, Abralon, Scotch Brite, diamond coated discs, and Abranet on our resurfacing machine, all work great.  Don't use the lambs wool pads for polishing too much, but it works nice too.

Once Nick gets a milling machine, he will be in this century!!  LOL!!

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Title: Re: Oooooh... new toy for the pro shop
Post by: BrunsNick on March 12, 2007, 12:44:45 AM
I'll mill you Mikey!
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