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Ratt_bowling

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Open bowling and thumbless
« on: August 03, 2015, 03:25:07 PM »
I have a question further down if you want to skip ahead.

I get in my practice on Thursdays during open bowling.  What i've noticed the last few months is that all the guys bowling around and near me are bowling thumbless with the house balls in an attempt to get some hook on the ball.  Sometimes they come and ask me how I do it and I always tell them it's more the ball than me. 

So my question is, why aren't the bowling centers keeping an arsenal of demo balls that open bowlers can rent for a few extra dollars?

 

kidlost2000

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 03:28:14 PM »
In many cases the balls would likely not return.

Most houses have no shortage of balls left behind by league bowlers that would hook plenty.
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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 03:46:57 PM »
Up front cost coupled with long term maintenance - cracking, de-oiling....

Juggernaut

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 09:55:46 PM »
 When you think about all the money it would take initially, then all the time you would spend on maintaining them, "performance" level house balls just wouldn't make practical sense.

  Not trying to hijack this thing, but this is one of the things about "modern" bowling.

 When I was learning to bowl, the house balls were just about the same thing that you could buy from the proshop. You could walk in off the street, rent some shoes, and get very close to experiencing what bowling was like at even a higher level.  All you could really do was practice and develop/hone your skill level. Not anymore.
 I honestly think this is part of what has lead to having two separate and distinct factions in bowling, the recreational "game, and the serious "sport".
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Ratt_bowling

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 07:33:07 PM »
I don't know how much s ball cost, so I will guess a Tropical Breeze can be bought by the pro shop for $30.  If you ask for a drivers license and $3 you've paid for it after 10 uses.  The labor to clean it and perform surface adjustments is minutes not hours.  Retire the ball for sale used after 50 uses and you made $120. 

What I anticipate happening is more people will do open bowling.  Especially if they think they are getting better at it because of a better performing ball.  Then they will also take next step to buy a ball of their own.

kidlost2000

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 08:43:59 PM »
If hp balls from the resin era are left on the racks for free (by bowlers and proshop dumps) and no maintenance of any kind is done to the ball it will still work perfectly for this intended purpose. 

The balls will out hook the urethane no core house balls by a lot.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2015, 02:28:53 PM »
I don't know how much s ball cost, so I will guess a Tropical Breeze can be bought by the pro shop for $30.  If you ask for a drivers license and $3 you've paid for it after 10 uses.  The labor to clean it and perform surface adjustments is minutes not hours.  Retire the ball for sale used after 50 uses and you made $120. 

Margins on balls are not that wide (wholesale vs retail) add in the cost of interchangeable thumbs and inserts that you would need to stock and it's just not worth the effort.

What I anticipate happening is more people will do open bowling.  Especially if they think they are getting better at it because of a better performing ball.  Then they will also take next step to buy a ball of their own.

t1buck

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Re: Open bowling and thumbless
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 04:41:12 PM »
They see that on TV with the promotion of BELMO.  I see it here every night I am bowling it is funny.  People need to learn the fundamentals of the game first. An it is not cost effective for centers to provide anything other than houseballs.