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bigdaddy1808

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open bowling
« on: January 05, 2013, 01:43:43 AM »
I had league bowlers come in tonight to open bowl and expected to have the lanes done for them. How many out there agree with them our would your house say your open bowling you deal with whats out there.

 

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 04:47:08 AM »
The two houses I frequent will oil the lanes if I ask.The one center asks me if they don't have a fresh pair if I want them to oil a pair for me.
I also bowl almost every day so I am a regular customer.
If you want to have a good customer and the time and space permits oil a pair for them.Good customer service is what makes a loyal customer.

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 07:31:02 AM »
I typically will expect to deal with what is there.  My buddy has gone in and thrown down an extra $5 to have a specific pattern put down.  I don't think the house charging a "re-oiling fee" would not be out of the question, but it all depends on the mood of "the house" and the relationship with the bowlers that came in.
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bigdaddy1808

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 08:42:29 AM »
Here's my issue they come in on Friday and Saturday nights when were mobbed with 99% of them kids who can care less whats out there. It's kinda of hard to bring the machine out to do there lanes. I'm just a peon and work there,I've told them what nights they can come in where its fresh but they continue to come in these days when were mobbed. It doesn't help anyway when the lanes are fresh for the league there teams high average is a 140 so whats the difference if there fresh or not.

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 09:19:16 AM »
Here's my issue they come in on Friday and Saturday nights when were mobbed with 99% of them kids who can care less whats out there. It's kinda of hard to bring the machine out to do there lanes. I'm just a peon and work there,I've told them what nights they can come in where its fresh but they continue to come in these days when were mobbed. It doesn't help anyway when the lanes are fresh for the league there teams high average is a 140 so whats the difference if there fresh or not.

 Since you are just a "peon" as you refer to it, I think the proper way to handle it would be to explain it to the manager, or owner, and see what they have to say about it.
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Re: open bowling
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 09:25:58 AM »
It has been brought up to them but you can't just break out the machine when you have a waiting list of people who can care less they just want to bowl

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 09:42:20 AM »
It has been brought up to them but you can't just break out the machine when you have a waiting list of people who can care less they just want to bowl

 So, since it has been brought up to them, what did they have to say about it?

 It is my opinion that I would try to accommodate them IF POSSIBLE, but only if they were amicable about the whole situation, understanding that there would be times when it just wouldn't be possible shut down several lanes just to oil a pair for them.
 
 It is also my opinion that league bowlers coming in to bowl on open bowling days should NOT expect the lanes to be freshly run just for them.

 You might be able to make a schedule of your current oiling days and times, then hand them out to your league bowlers so that they would know when freshly oiled lanes were available to them.
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bigdaddy1808

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 09:47:02 AM »
I have told these particular guys what nights to come in when they are done but continue to come in on the two busy open bowling nights. I mean when I was a kid the old owners oiled with a sprayer so ya dealt with it, people need to learn to play the lanes

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 10:07:13 AM »
You get what you pay for. If you go in when it is dead and the center wants to oil for you, great. If it is busy then you get what you get.

An extra $5 for changing patterns to a sport pattern is funny. To get the true pattern you have to run it across several lanes (8+) before the machine will start to do the pattern correctly. Then go the other way to take it back to your original pattern. Thats way more then $5 worth of oil, time and labor.
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bigdaddy1808

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 10:14:52 AM »
You get what you pay for. If you go in when it is dead and the center wants to oil for you, great. If it is busy then you get what you get.

An extra $5 for changing patterns to a sport pattern is funny. To get the true pattern you have to run it across several lanes (8+) before the machine will start to do the pattern correctly. Then go the other way to take it back to your original pattern. Thats way more then $5 worth of oil, time and labor.


Okay I thought maybe I was crazy in my way of thinking,glad I'm not the only one that thinks this way.

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 05:20:17 PM »
Don't feel like you should accommodate them at all if they come in when it's busy.  They are league bowlers, not some average Joe off the street.  They know when you're full with leagues, they know when you have open bowling, and they know when that's busy and when it isn't.  If they want a favor, they should ask when it isn't unrealistically inconvenient.

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2013, 09:33:51 AM »

I am a G.M. of a 32 lane center. Every lane gets oiled every day, and we re-oil before evening leagues, so many of them are done twice daily.  Bowlers get what is out there, but with our schedule finding some oil usually isn't too hard.

Re-oiling a pair on a Friday or Saturday night would be out of the question, though.  We typically have an hour wait for a lane during prime time Friday/Saturday nights. My mechanic is busy getting stops and repairing things in the arcade, or something.  It is not cost effective to ask him to drag the 250 pound machine out to oil a pair for some guys who probably can't read ball reaction anyway (140 average, as you put it). 

We've also got the Cosmic lights and music going, so most of our league bowlers just come when they can see what they are doing.  I have actually never even had the request, either.  When teams start getting ready for Nationals I will try very hard to put out the shot on certain days, but never would I dream of doing it when these guys are requesting...  Just too busy!

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 10:04:03 AM »
That's exactly what I tell them and they just don't care last year they were just regular open bowlers using house balls they join a league this year and they're pros

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2013, 10:05:41 AM »

I am a G.M. of a 32 lane center. Every lane gets oiled every day, and we re-oil before evening leagues, so many of them are done twice daily.  Bowlers get what is out there, but with our schedule finding some oil usually isn't too hard.

Re-oiling a pair on a Friday or Saturday night would be out of the question, though.  We typically have an hour wait for a lane during prime time Friday/Saturday nights. My mechanic is busy getting stops and repairing things in the arcade, or something.  It is not cost effective to ask him to drag the 250 pound machine out to oil a pair for some guys who probably can't read ball reaction anyway (140 average, as you put it). 

We've also got the Cosmic lights and music going, so most of our league bowlers just come when they can see what they are doing.  I have actually never even had the request, either.  When teams start getting ready for Nationals I will try very hard to put out the shot on certain days, but never would I dream of doing it when these guys are requesting...  Just too busy!

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Re: open bowling
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2013, 10:21:27 AM »
Where in nj do you live? We do oil every day twice Monday to Thursday, Friday,Saturday, Sunday just the one time