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Tex

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State Tournaments
« on: October 08, 2011, 08:02:09 AM »
   I received my copy of the entry form for the Texas State Tournament last week and just tossed it on the counter. Didn't do much more than open the envelope and knowing the deadline is early next year that was it. Happened to look at it this morning when my wife began reading a letter in the envelope with it about changes in the dress code and handicap. Handicap? Texas State is all scratch and 5 divisions. Ok... What is going on. Well for some reason after all these years they made the tournament handicap.. But not just handicap. 90% or 245!  They did add a special scratch option that anyone can pay to enter at an extra $10 an event, well except all events just handicap for that one. Where in the world did they get 245? and you go from scratch to the highest handicap I have ever seen in a tournament. Now this is an event that pays crap to start. We won divisoin 1 in 2007 for team and got a big $190 each. That was enough to say we should only do those we can drive to in a day and not be out much for expenses, but talk about a sandbaggers paradise.

 

So all  that ranting and I ask. What does your state tournaments use?


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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 09:05:03 PM »
North Carolina has a scratch and handicap division. Handicap is 90% of 220.



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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 05:37:31 AM »
I guess too many people in division 1 complained last year about having to bowl heads up against the Team USA women along with team PBA.



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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 05:47:01 AM »
It has no effect in divsions 2-5 which were small average seperations anyway.  All it is designed to do is add entries to division 1.  Too many legitimate 200-210 average bowlers are afraid to bowl Wes Malott, Chris Barnes, Paul Fleming, Stephanie Nation, and the rest of team USA that now lives in Texas without getting pins. 



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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 05:54:44 AM »
South Carolina uses 90% and 230



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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 05:57:13 AM »
NJ has a state handicap tournament and a state masters tournament which is scratch. Unfortunately, even though a majority of the county masters tournaments are bowled on a sport pattern, the state masters is on a house shot.



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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2011, 07:15:59 AM »
Not sure. I know that squad we bowled had a big scratch team that they put on a pair alone and they lead they lead the tournament until the last day. Paul and Chris did well in the minors, but there team didn't win either. Last year was so high scoring in team it balanced a lot of that out. Txbowler and my team shot over 1100 scratch all three games and didn't even cash. They also shifted the divisions to Division 1 being based on over 210 instead of 200. That will probably decrease that divisions entries (which is the smallest now) and increase the entries in the lower. I will even fall in Division 2 (196 - 209) unless they did a ten pin rule and don't see a date so looks like they didn't. The rule of thumb the past few years is if its not in Dallas/Ft. Worth we don't go and this adds another good reason to continue that rule. Nothing else to set back and see if it builds or hurts the tournament. Personally if I was going to change the divisoins I would have prefferred just make that change and see what happened this next year, but I guess if you are going to shake it up just get it over with.


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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2011, 02:23:37 PM »
New York was 100% of 230 for a few years, but I guess some of the higher average hacks complained now it's 90% of 220.

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Re: State Tournaments
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 08:17:25 AM »
Pa is 90 percent of 220 and You are automatically entered in scratch and Handicap. No extra money needed to be in scratch. 

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