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ccrider

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Outside Lane Adjustment
« on: November 05, 2008, 08:58:23 AM »
Do any of you move outside once the track starts to dry up on a THS.

I generally chase the oil inside, but several of the guys in our league are moving right and throwing straiter, rather than arcing the shot out to inside.

What is the best type of ball and surface to use if I want to move right. My ball driller thinks that a strong ball stacked at around 11:00,  with more surface and less or no polish will get through the dry better and retain more energy down lane. My thought was that a strong ball with less surface and some polish would likely get through the heads better and retain more energy off of the break point.

Who is correct? I have pretty much settled on Ultra Zone, drilled stack, for to play this shot.

Thanks

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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 05:09:07 PM »
depending on ur rev rate and other things i would go very weak like entry level or Vibe level. with my rev rate-speed ratio i cant play out there with anything except those balls and i have to pretty much suitcase it.
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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 05:11:45 PM »
Not sure about rev rate, but ball speed 14 mph Quibica. I have a Desert Heat that I may pull out and try it, as compared to the Ultra, once it is drilled.
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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 05:22:22 PM »
If you're hitting "dry" by moving outside your driller's idea will be a ball that is predictable and easy to get to the pocket because of the smooth reaction. The problem will be one of carry. Duller surfaces read the lane sooner and the ball will lose energy faster. Stacked layouts will probably overflare and hit like a turd on lots of dry, unless you throw it extremely hard.

For what it's worth, I tend to agree with your assessment. If I need to cross more boards late I'm looking for something shiny. I would lean towards a pin to PAP layout of around 4 1/2" to 5" and above the fingers for a delayed, stronger move late. Much of this depends on your own ball speed, rev rate, etc.


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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 05:30:40 PM »
Lane,

I have a power machine plugged and ready to be redrilled that I was thinking would be a better choice than the Ultra Zone for this task. I am a stroker, with a moderate, rev rate, 300-325, ball speed 14-16.  You are correct in your assessment about throwing the ball extremely hard. That is what these guys are doing. Playing down hill, and throwing hard. It seems to work.

I may still end up back inside for the third game after all is said and done, but I do want to try this adjustment and learn to play down 2 to 5 consistently. I see several of the pros doing it, although on much more difficult shots.
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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 06:05:55 PM »
For playing on dry learn to kill the rev rate a bit, too. Look at Norm Duke when he plays outside.
Learning to pick up your speed without "grabbing the release" at the bottom is valuable on scorched lanes, as well as helping the ball to hit and carry better.


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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 09:01:18 PM »
I've started playing that line with an old pin-in-palm Ebonite Turbo after 2 games in league.  I throw it pretty hard and stay behind with maybe 20* of axis rotation.  It doesn't overreact and you can use the track carrydown as hold.  Strong balls are just a headache for me on that line, lots of tough spares and/or poor carry if it finds the pocket.  

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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 01:16:35 AM »
I used to move deeper to stay with the ball at hand, but I found it (for my style) much more effective to either take out some hand or switch to a weaker ball and move closer to the gutter. Pin above the fingers and 4.5-5" from PAP is quite effective, and my Revolution Renegade, black Pure Hammer and Slate Blue Gargoyle are very choices for this job.
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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2008, 11:42:46 AM »
I sometimes do this depending on where everyone has been playing. I usually go to my power groove that is drilled pin beside ring, stacked, with a 1/2" hole an inch or so right and just below the pin. The layout gives me a weaker ball with a rolly drilling that doesn't want to overreact.
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Re: Outside Lane Adjustment
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2008, 12:20:38 PM »
What do you mean by modified? Pin 1 inch above midline?

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