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BXTECH

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over/under
« on: October 16, 2008, 12:16:31 AM »
in alot of post and forums i see people talk about the over/under reaction that they get, does this kind of reaction mainly caused by coverstock or drilling or release?
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dizzyfugu

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Re: over/under
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 08:23:13 AM »
Also comes from the lane condition, esp. when a clean pattern breaks down with a dry track area and/or carrdown. Balls will tend to react erratically, and balls with shiny surfaces and/or flip/length drilling will make things more severe.

Best bet(s) to conquer this is IMHO...
a) ball with some surface
b) particle is never wrong
c) rolly drillings (pin close to grip center, pin axis)
d) less side rotation/more hand behind the ball
e) try a different line, away from the traffic, closer to the gutter is in many cases a good choice to play "around" the hazardous area
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Re: over/under
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 01:04:21 PM »
i have been seeing some really over under, squeaky clean backends at a house that I bowl at once a week. It has been a struggle. First game always seems to be real good playing deep with a polished pearl, then the second game and third has been kicking my but for the most part, the backends are flying and the track is burning up. My Supernova is to jumpy and my Link seems to get over under because of the good amount of oil leading up to the breakpoint.

Next week I am going to try sanding my Link to 4000 abralomn and see if I can get a smoother more predictable reaction.
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Re: over/under
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 02:40:36 AM »
Had over/under battle yesterday in training - without warning, our club's lane man decided to lay down a longer and soupier (42', 22ml of oil, 2008 AnvilLane) pattern than usual, and I only had polished pearls in my bag since I expected the standard 38' with only 18ml.

My Smash Zone was totally out of control, I could not make it work consistently whatever I tried: different lines, hand positions, more revs, less revs. Hell! It either, with my normal release, missed the 1-3 pocket and left washouts. Or, when I took out speed and added revs, would suddenly move once it left the oil and then go Brooklyn. Strange to behold the ball sailing 40' down the lane and then suddenly revving up and turning the corner as if someone had kicked it! But the experiment showed that the ball responds very well to dry boards and release changes...

I was really puzzled. Later I had more success with my Fuze Igniter (which is drilled to go longer and then hook sharp), which allowed me a more stable move through the heads and have the ball break later in the clean(er) back end area. But a 188 high game is not the world, even though many other players also struggled under the unfamliar slippery conditions. 200+ games very really rare.

Man, did I wish for my Eliminator or my NS²...
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Edited on 10/17/2008 7:03 AM
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BXTECH

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Re: over/under
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 06:58:03 AM »
Dizz, i took ur advice and after starting off using the gamebreaker (standing at 20 and breaking between 8-10)in the firt game and through the middle of the second when the 10 pin wouldn't kick out or began to be too squirty shanged over to a polished momentum and standing at 17 out to 5 and carrying the pins in the deck.
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Re: over/under
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 07:04:44 AM »
I had a AMF Nkryption Code drilled up yesterday with wet/dry, over/under in mind. 2" pin to pap, cg near center of grip, and the mb in my track - I'm a high-tracker (pap = 5 1/4 over, 1" up).

Ball revs up quick with a very smooth, but strong arc. Took the cover to 500 Abralon. Very controllable on the wet/dry.

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Re: over/under
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 09:10:12 PM »
I dont mean this to sound cocky or anything in any way. but as for someone who bowls every day on sport patterns and bowl for the university of central florida for college, over under is more caused by being in the wrong part of the lane along with not a consistent release. the tendency is to stop the swing short which will cause different reactions. also if you are in the correct part of the lane then you get a more consistent reaction on every shot and have the most margin for error. to me when i start to get this "over/under" reaction i just move to a different part of the lane instead of fighting it or drilling a new ball for this. thats just me though. hope this helps and it is just my opinion
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Re: over/under
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 12:28:21 AM »
That's a good point Shawn.  I can kinda vouch for that statement because I felt a bit of over/under on the Viper and Shark so far in my PBA league, in the sense that missing one board either way gets you in trouble.  On the Viper, I moved to a part of the lane where I can miss one board outside and still have a chance to strike.  On the Shark it didn't really matter where I played although one area was always better than another.  I still only had one board, so that made think there could be a better ball suited for that condition for my style.  So I think it's a combination of ball choice and where you're playing.

BXTECH

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Re: over/under
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 01:27:19 AM »
thanx for the insight, you've cleared up a alot
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