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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: oooink on February 16, 2004, 02:42:23 AM
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Alright, heres the scoop! I feel that Im in pretty good shape, I workout 5 days a week and try to stretch regularly. However no matter what I do I get a tremendous pain through out the top of my sliding leg. It gets so bad that I can barely walk. It doesnt hurt when I workout, just when I bowl. The more I bowl the worse it hurts! The pain hurts from right above my knee all the way up my thigh. Well this weekend I had a tournament and I was even starting to get a sharp pain in my shins as well. I had bowled like 10 games this weekend in a tournament, and that was about the worst it has been! If anyone can give me an idea as to what this could be it would be greatly appreciated! Or if anyone has had this pain and been able to get rid of it and would let me know it would wonderful! Thank you for taking the time to read this and any in put is helpful and greatly appreciated!
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rest, just let your leg rest for a while, and dont put pressure on it(besides walking) it should be better in a few days, to a few weeks.
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I have tried that with no luck, it doesnt matter how much time I take off or rest it doesnt help! And if I bowl more then once a week, it just gets worse with the more I bowl!
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I have tried that with no luck, it doesnt matter how much time I take off or rest it doesnt help! And if I bowl more then once a week, it just gets worse with the more I bowl!
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I have knee problems as well. My old coach was trying to get me to keep my trail leg not to come around so far. It would whip around so far that if I was bowling on 6 I would almost foul on 5. Don't know if that could be a problem at all or not. If that trail leg gets to far over it puts a little more stress on that knee and the muscles. Just a thought for ya.
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Actually, now that you say that I do kick my sliding leg way out! I will definately give that a tray and see if that helps! Did you get pain in your knee, or above your knee and through out your thigh?
Thanks for the input!!!
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Yes, I am sliding. Actually my slide is pretty smooth!
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Would get pain in the knee like you had said to where it hurt to walk. As well as through the thigh.
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Oooink,
Number one, definitely see a doctor if it's that bad. Number two(tricky), is your sliding foot centered to your body at the point of release? If it isn't, you're not creating proper leverage and actually putting more strain to the leg. Understand that at the point of release, you are physically only standing on one leg if you don't drag your other foot so there is quite a bit of weight pressure put onto that leg. Try this, just at home or whatever, put your sliding foot out in front of your body and pretend to throw a ball, does this hurt? Now try and center your leg to your body(middle of chest) and do the same thing, does this hurt, any less maybe? Feel free to contact me if you want me to explain in further detail. Hope this helps...
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I have taken a few lessons and as far as I know I dont get to the line stiff legged. Actually I think that if I got down any further I would probably end up bouncing the ball behind me. Also the guy that I take lessons from has not mentioned anything bad about my slide, that I am to high or not sliding off centered. Thanks for the input everyone
Oooink
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Just a thought! What shape are your shoes in? Are they laced to tightly or fit to tight? Sometimes little things like that can cause pain.
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oooink - I have what sounds like the same problem from time to time. If so, it's your quadraceps as Peri mentioned and its typically associated with a deep (but not necessarily incorrect) kneebend, slide, and abrupt stop. It is the equivalent to stretching incorrectly. Doctors tell us to stretch and hold for x-number of seconds in a smooth, continuous stretch, not to jerk while stretching as it can cause the muscle tissue to rip. In essence, your (our) slide is smooth with a jerk on the end. It can be caused by dropping your heel, sticky approaches, or twisting the leg in your slide. I definitely have more of a problem on tacky approaches.
There are a couple of ways to help with this. Definitely stretch out your quadriceps before bowling. Warm them up. This alone should help if you're throwing a short (3-4 games) set. Make sure your foot is sliding fairly straight. If your heal is diagonal, or worse parallel, to the foul line (assuming you're not swinging a deep inside line) you'll need to learn to slide straight with that foot. Don't drop your heel (if you do) or consider the purchase of shoes with a heel that will also slide with you.
Finally, when you do get some pain, try walking it off. I've found that walking normally between shots helps lessen the pain when I'm doing the above-mentioned things incorrectly.
Good luck. Let me know if you discover anything else.
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Thanks again for all the input everyone, anything I can try differently at this point is helpful!!!
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I had that EXACT same pain.
I found that the problem was what a previous poster addressed, sudden stoppage.
Once I got a pair of sst6's with the leather heel & was able to come to a controlled stop, the pain went away.
I wish you all the best because I know how painful/frustrating that can be!
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oooink: The problem could very well be that you're slightly (or not so slightly) bent over at the point of follow through, which puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the part of the slide leg you described.
I used to have that same pain in the same place, and I was able to fix it by staying more erect. If you have a coach, have him focus on that part of your delivery to verify if that's a problem or not.
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Oink, best to see a doctor and get an MRI on the lower back, L and S series of vertabrae. I have had a problem with degeneration at L4, L5 (bulging disc that touches the nerve) and that flares the sciatic nerve that runs down your leg to your knee. I hope this isn't your problem as I recently had a spinal block done and so far it is helping. Next fix would be surgery. Good luck
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Somebody had mentioned the nerve thing to me this weekend, so when I went to my chiropractor he did a few things and said that if it was the sciatic nerve that I wouldnt have as much mobility in my leg without being in excruciating pain! He said that I wouldnt be able to put my leg @ 90% with my body without just about passing out. How true is this? Im not to sure. Was this the case for you? Thanks all for the input!
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Ooink,
When you say that it starts just above your knee and proceeds up into your upper leg, do you mean straight up from the knee, or do you mean on the outside of your leg like in the hip socket? The reason I ask is because I messed up my slide leg somehow this summer, and the more games I bowl I get symptoms very similar to what you're describing in my hip. I found out that I have bursitis in the hip joint and now I'm on anti-inflammatory pills to try to get the joint moving more freely. I don't know how I got this condition, but I know what you're going through, as it is very painful. If this is similar to what you're going through, you may want to see your doctor. Best of luck to you.
Gene J. Kanak
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Before the pain was pretty much nill when I only bowled once a week. Well this past weekend I bowled in a tourney so I new I was going to be in pain. Well, this is something thats happened if I bowled more then normal for the past couple of years. Well I figured that since I didnt bowl that much, that maybe it was a muscle that I dont use that often. So last week I was like Im going to try and work this thing out and I bowled everyday on my lunch hour at work. Well come the weekend it was so bad that while I was bowling I could barely walk! Now its not when Im up there throwing the ball its after when I walk away or go sit down. Before the pain just seemed to go from the inside above my knee and up my thigh to the outside. This is why I thought it was a muscle. Well this weekend it got to the point that it was always hurting even when I would try and go to sleep, and it seems to consume most of my upper leg now and up to the side of the hip. So needless to say I am lost! Stretching doesnt work, but my chiropractor just seems to think that its cause my hips are to tight and just need to be stretched real good for a while! However stretching doesnt ease the pain very much at all. But the weird thing is that it doesnt bother me when I workout!
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Ooink, I am not a Dr. but I could relieve my problem with my disc compression and the sciatic nerve by using the tread mill but NOT on the inclined position. The neurosurgeon said this helps stretch the disc and relieves some compression on the nerve. There is always disagreements between Dr. and Chiropractors. I again would suggest a MRI and rule out the disc problem just to be on the safe side. Eliminate one thing at a time until you find the real culprit. Good luck, I know this isn't fun.
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Yes, you are right! I guess in someways I was hoping it would just work itself out!