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LuckyLefty

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Parallel Moves....
« on: May 09, 2012, 12:23:23 AM »
I have been bowling on a real nice house shot and owning many games Only strikes and 7 pins.

Recently I grabbed one of my stronest balls(bounty hunter) and could not get it in the pocket without projecting way away from the pocket.  7 pin 7 pin 7 pin 7 pin for this lefty!

Then I would do a 2 and 1 reverse move and split split.  finally I did a 1 and 1 parallel move left and crushing strikes.  Bombs away! 9 in a row, then a 7 pin and a bunch more.  This was a nice move for me!   For you of course it would be right to right.

Is the fact that this is a pretty strong side to side wet dry that it worked so well?
I tried with two other slightly weaker balls than the Bounty Hunter and it worked just as well.

The secret to this move?

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Luckylefty

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dizzyfugu

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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 03:47:39 AM »
It is IMHO all about creating and maintaining a proper entry angle - plus the respective path of the ball through the deck. Sometimes, just moving the feet is not enough, or you start moving in circles, e. g. when your ball hooks early and goes Brookly, then you move your feet left and get it to the pocket, but the entry angle is too shallow so that you do not get a good pin mix, or in worse cases start leaving splits.

I totally agree that doing a parallel move can be the answer in some cases - when you have a good angle, but the path on the pin deck is just not right. It is certainly not the definite answer to carry problems, but when you watch you ball reaction and how the ball enters the pins, moving the whole "picture" a few inches can be very effective!
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spmcgivern

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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 07:21:10 AM »
On a typical house shot, parallel moves allow you to be in the oil longer than 2-1 moves.  2-1 moves work well when the angle to the pocket is correct and you are striking already.  Once you lose that shot, you make the 2-1 move and you can be back where you were. 

But if you are not at the correct angle, (leaving 7-pins) then changing that angle will benefit you.  For this case, moving your breakpoint inside where there is more oil worked out better.  And that makes sense when you say it is an extreme wet dry from side-to-side.  Most likely, your ball was entering the dry too early and burning up. 

When things aren't working well and carry isn't there, you really need to pick up on the little things about your ball's motion to make a good change.  Glad to see this worked for you.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 08:20:17 AM »
Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

I want to be clear.  I am a lefty and continued moving right 2 and 1 till I found the pocket.  7 7 7 7 7 7 pin.

I then moved left 1 and 1....BAM 9 in a row.  Do all you nice and thoughtful experts on this site usually find this is a move for pretty strong wet dries?  Not so much for blends.

Parallel moves?  Your guidance is sought..

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 09:34:16 AM »
Quote from: spmcgivern on May 09, 2012, 07:21:10 AM
On a typical house shot, parallel moves allow you to be in the oil longer than 2-1 moves.  2-1 moves work well when the angle to the pocket is correct and you are striking already.  Once you lose that shot, you make the 2-1 move and you can be back where you were. 

But if you are not at the correct angle, (leaving 7-pins) then changing that angle will benefit you.  For this case, moving your breakpoint inside where there is more oil worked out better.  And that makes sense when you say it is an extreme wet dry from side-to-side.  Most likely, your ball was entering the dry too early and burning up. 

When things aren't working well and carry isn't there, you really need to pick up on the little things about your ball's motion to make a good change.  Glad to see this worked for you.

I'd also suppose that the 2-1 change or such are rather effective in order to keep the ball on line and in the pocket, once you got there. I find parallel moves/changes rather appropriate when I adjust on a fresh lane - you know more or less how the ball will break and make its move, and a parallel shift can be the answer to get the right carry, esp. when you do not want to cover more boards in order to get to the pocket.
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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 12:25:04 PM »
I think if you move "into" the dry, then perhaps your ball was finishing behind the headpin a little.  If that was the case, then getting your ball into the dry a little earlier could provide the "earlier" roll necessary to carry where as your previous shot was getting into a roll too late.

I just think the assumption that 2-1 moves are the only moves out there is ridiculous.  Even though most everyone is bowling on a house shot and it can be quite easy, doesn't mean there is only one way to adjust.  For the ball you were using on that shot, 1-1 move into the dry worked.  Doesn't mean a 1-1 move to the inside wouldn't have worked either.  There is more than one way to adjust if the ball is coming in behind the headpin and leaving corners, especially on a house shot.  Ultimately, you need to see what your ball is doing, not just if you are hitting the pocket.
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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 12:44:44 PM »
parallel moves can be useful, but it is just one tool in adjusting, and probably not the first option in most situations.  Many years ago we would typically make a parallel move to the right ( for right handers ) when leaving weak 10's.  With todays modern balls we get weak corners due to burn out more often than too much skid.  As a result, sometimes a 2 and 1 or even more works better.  I have found the best adjustment to often be moving the feet left, and picking up my target on the same board, but further down the lane.  Convesely if I need to move right I might pick up the target closer to the foul line.  These in effect are not parallel moves, but are not like 2 and 1 either 
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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 03:02:23 PM »
Coming in a board light or behind the pocket....that's right.  Exactly what I was doing 7 7 7 7 7. 

Narrowing the perspective or losing the angle of projection led to splits.  ie 2 and 1.  OR 1 and 1/2 moves back left.

But getting in the dry with the SAME projection angle did get me higher in the pocket with 3 balls!  All with different drillings, coverstocks and surfaces!

I appreciate  the idea of moving the eyes downlane back to the foul line also!

Thanks for the comments ideas, insights.

Any more?  I appreciate the thinking answers..

Regards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Parallel Moves....
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 10:46:47 PM »
Hey Lucky,

I too am a lefty, and our lines are generally pretty much almost generic lines.. In terms of adjustments, the 2-1, 1-1, an arrow here or there, even for the soft 7 pin leave, (moving your address position back 4 inches on the approach offer solves that problem for me!!).. Basically, today u found a line that worked, well done mate on that, obviously u gunned it  once u adjusted..Tomorrow that line may not work, keep an open mind, and always watch your ball where it breaks , where it enters pocket, and how it drives through the pocket.. That wil give u a lot of info to work with..

It's taken me a while for me to adjust earlier, and trust my judgement. Now if ball isn't working for me, I make a generous move nice and early, might take a frame or two to get it spot on, but the move has saved possible opens and splits.
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