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bowler100

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Particle balls with a Urethane base
« on: July 07, 2019, 03:56:57 PM »
Other than the Visionary Midnight Scorcher, are there any other bowling balls classified as "particle" which utilized a urethane base instead of being a reactive resin?
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Bowl_Freak

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 04:33:36 PM »
Ebonite Tombstone....now there was a ball with a rough surface.
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bowler100

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 07:40:15 PM »
Quote from: Bowl_Freak on July 08, 2019, 04:33:36 PM
Ebonite Tombstone....now there was a ball with a rough surface.
That and the Ebonite Riptide.
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bcw1969

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 08:42:25 PM »
When I had more "aggressive" drillings on my Midnight Scorchers, On A Flooded sport shot I found that a similarly drilled Tombstone with same surface was very very similar to my Scorcher.  The Riptide I bought used I made the mistake of putting a too "early and aggressive" drilling on it.....wanted to see how it would compare to my other oilers scorcher/tombstone/amb particle and it was literally unusable for me on anything without taming the surface all the way up.  I would personally love it if one of the companies would put out a particle urethane with an aggressive core but not as aggressive as the scorcher...I'd be a buyer.

Brad
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bowler100

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2019, 02:38:56 AM »
Quote from: bcw1969 on July 08, 2019, 08:42:25 PM
When I had more "aggressive" drillings on my Midnight Scorchers, On A Flooded sport shot I found that a similarly drilled Tombstone with same surface was very very similar to my Scorcher.  The Riptide I bought used I made the mistake of putting a too "early and aggressive" drilling on it.....wanted to see how it would compare to my other oilers scorcher/tombstone/amb particle and it was literally unusable for me on anything without taming the surface all the way up.  I would personally love it if one of the companies would put out a particle urethane with an aggressive core but not as aggressive as the scorcher...I'd be a buyer.

Brad
What kind of layout did you use? Is it like a quick transition or hook/set type of layout layout?
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bcw1969

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 10:38:39 AM »
I have on the Riptide a 320 degree hook/set drilling...found here
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Trick_Layout_Examples

I like the drilling on heavier/tougher shots because I need the help in the drilling and surface  with my very low rev rate to generate a decent movement. A couple years ago or so Kegel Training Center in Lake Wales Fl marked my rev rate at 196.

For me this drilling on certain balls gives me a move to the pocket that I can't get with less "aggressive" drillings. I imagine for bowlers with much higher rev rates such a drilling would not be necessary or practical.

Brad
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bowler100

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 11:47:21 AM »
Quote from: bcw1969 on July 09, 2019, 10:38:39 AM
I have on the Riptide a 320 degree hook/set drilling...found here
http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/index.php?title=Trick_Layout_Examples

I like the drilling on heavier/tougher shots because I need the help in the drilling and surface  with my very low rev rate to generate a decent movement. A couple years ago or so Kegel Training Center in Lake Wales Fl marked my rev rate at 196.

For me this drilling on certain balls gives me a move to the pocket that I can't get with less "aggressive" drillings. I imagine for bowlers with much higher rev rates such a drilling would not be necessary or practical.

Brad
Did you put that same layout on the Tombstone and Midnight Scorcher as well? If so, it would not surprise me if the Scorcher and Tombstone were very similar for you.

As much as I would love to buy a Tombstone off of you, you have made it clear up to this point that you are not giving it up. Just let me know if you change your mind. ;)
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bcw1969

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 11:59:03 AM »
At one time I did have one of my 2 scorchers drilled with the 320 drilling, and I still have one of my tombstones drilled that way....since the group of  tournaments I used to bowl with "extreme" patterns is no more didn't see the need to have my scorcher with that drilling so I put a much milder drilling back on it, since I was basically getting the same look from one of  my tombstones. Either Tombstone I wouldn't part with, but.......my Amb Particle(16 pound) doesn't "have" to stay with me...the amb core is not the best fit for me.

Brad
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2019, 09:35:45 PM »
A lot of these layouts are no longer legal with x holes now banned. An assymetric ball with an mb of .014 or less may get close but I haven't tested this to come to a conclusion. I bowl about 3 - 6 games a month present day.
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bcw1969

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2019, 10:19:11 PM »
Before I redrilled that Scorcher I plugged the weight hole first and then had my proshop see if it would pass the new oz ruling in effect..it didn't so it was put back to a previous milder drilling. Some balls that I have the drilling on might still be legal with the weight hole plugged and some may not....I'll cross that bridge when I absolutely have to.

Brad
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