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JPbowling151

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Particle coverstocks
« on: January 14, 2013, 08:06:03 PM »
I'd imagine this has been a topic of conversation but I figure I'd ask anyway. Why have bowling manufacturers gone away from creating balls with particle coverstocks in recent years? Is it because of ball longevity, what they did to the lane surface, not give a popular ball motion to that of a conventional reactive shell, or all of the above? The only particle shell currently on the market that I can think of is the Lord Field Higgs Force.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 08:18:49 PM »
I think they might just stay away from using the word particle not that they arent really using particle still......
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 08:54:26 PM »
Particle is still used. However companies have started calling it "additives" or back to the original "mica" or whatever the particle is. Particle has such a negative correlation today companies try to stay away from the word as much as possible.

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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2013, 09:22:24 PM »
Like anything it is a misunderstood thing kinda like the cg and static weights. That being said it is widely available and works great no matter what the name is.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 10:24:34 PM »
Quote from: JPbowling151 on January 14, 2013, 08:06:03 PM
I'd imagine this has been a topic of conversation but I figure I'd ask anyway. Why have bowling manufacturers gone away from creating balls with particle coverstocks in recent years? Is it because of ball longevity, what they did to the lane surface, not give a popular ball motion to that of a conventional reactive shell, or all of the above? The only particle shell currently on the market that I can think of is the Lord Field Higgs Force.

Lord Field also has the Heritage and Nasty which are labeled as Proton Particle.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 10:28:28 PM »
So with this big particle "conspiracy", lol, what balls do you all feel are "particle" that for some reason companies aren't letting us know about?
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 10:53:49 PM »
Quote from: DP3 on January 14, 2013, 10:28:28 PM
So with this big particle "conspiracy", lol, what balls do you all feel are "particle" that for some reason companies aren't letting us know about?

Nano(s) and Defiant(s).
Wouldn't be surprised if the R2X and R3X coverstocks had particles in them.

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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »
Quote from: Pat Patterson on January 14, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: JPbowling151 on January 14, 2013, 08:06:03 PM
I'd imagine this has been a topic of conversation but I figure I'd ask anyway. Why have bowling manufacturers gone away from creating balls with particle coverstocks in recent years? Is it because of ball longevity, what they did to the lane surface, not give a popular ball motion to that of a conventional reactive shell, or all of the above? The only particle shell currently on the market that I can think of is the Lord Field Higgs Force.

Lord Field also has the Heritage and Nasty which are labeled as Proton Particle.

Let's not forget the LordField Exodus Iron and the NextGen Ignitor and ELectric A/C.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 04:37:19 AM »
Nano solid and pearl, Defiant and Defiant Edge, and a few others that slip my mind.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 04:50:32 AM »
So it seems the word particle is sort of an unspoken term in bowling ball manufacturing/marketing info these days. Interesting
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 05:19:28 AM »
Particle is kind of a naughty word in the bowling industry. If people cant cover 39 boards with a ball and have it smack the pocket in the last 5 feet, then the ball sucks. So the word "particle" is not mentioned for the simple fact of sales.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 06:42:46 AM »
Yet only a few years ago when the person wanted the biggest hooking ball it had to be particle. Funny how peoples memory goes.

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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 06:46:27 AM »
I believe the original Brunswick Revolver had some particle in it as well.

DP3...no conspiracy...next time you see an Ebonite/Brunswick/Storm rep (if you ever do) ask them point blank and most will give you a straight up answer that they still use it but don't call it particle.

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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 06:58:00 AM »
Quote from: 3835 on January 15, 2013, 06:46:27 AM

DP3...no conspiracy...next time you see an Ebonite/Brunswick/Storm rep (if you ever do) ask them point blank and most will give you a straight up answer that they still use it but don't call it particle.

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Conspiracy is probably the right word, because the vast majority of league bowlers throwing the Nanos and the Defiants never get a chance to ask such a question and wouldn't ask it if the Storm rep was standing next to them for 3 hours of league.

It is not publicized; therefore it is not known. Virtually a case of "don't ask; don't tell."

Heck, if you told the guy point blank to his face and he didn't know you personally, he'd probably call you a liar or just plain wouldn't believe you.
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Re: Particle coverstocks
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 07:20:41 AM »
Hmm...but to me a conspiracy implies a blatant lie. The companies are stating there is an additive or "mica" or whatever, so they are stating there is something added to the cover without stating the word particle.

I hear you on the league bowler....but then again, ask any of them what a reactive resin cover is and I bet you get quite a few stares as in what are you talking about, so we are talking the upper small % of bowlers that would understand what an additive is and what the different covers are.

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