1. We bowled 36 weeks - 4qtrs of 9 weeks. With 4 different quarter winners. So there was a bowl off for final positions of 1-4. They bowed 3 games.

2. The rest of the league bowled sweeper night... of only 2 games ().

3. On the 35th Week it was announced that everyone owed an additional $20 for sweeper night prize fund as the house was "giving" us the lineage.

4. Everyone has to wait until 1-4 is determined.

5. Everyone has to wait through a league meeting to elect officers for next year.

6. Everyone has to declare if they are returning next year and who the contact was.

7. Finally they pay out - close to 10pm.

8. The secretary was paid, $1620 out of the prize fund. (.25 x 180 x 36). The house uses build in software to do the recap, the house does the banking. The secretary basically counts the money, turns into the desk, keeps up with the envelops (unless it is included in the house software), and turns in award scores (which they got wrong once for me on my 2nd 300 and gave it to my son). So does this sound fair?

We happen to bowl unopposed for our 2 game sweeper and are done in 1 hour or about 7:30. Teams 1 - bowl until about 9:30. So we are waiting 2 hours. Then we are called to the desk and have to go through the meeting for assigning new officers ( and who cares at this point... 90% of the league has been standing around waiting for at least an hour) so someone says "keep it the same" and everone seconds... that took all of 5 minutes... then comes 30 minutes of calling out team names and asking "are you returning next year?" and "who is your team contact and phone number" for 38 teams. Now come on!!!

Next thing, the prize money. ~$21 per point (which includes the 50/50 every week... or so they said.) We paid 20 perweek and got back 356 per person. 38 team and only ~$21 per point??? There was 100 for high average... nothing for anything else... nothing for high series, high game, nothing for team finishings... thats it. And the sweaper paid, 1st and 2nd for Team High Game and Series. Thats it. We won 200 for 2nd Team High game ($40 per person) and we shot 1200 scratch. (Of course during the year we shot 1316 and got nothing for it and shot 3658 scratch and got nothing for it either).

Does any of this seem crazy to anyone else? Or am I seeing things wrong here? I would have much rather paid $12 per night instead of 20 and not got back money because I would have bowled a second league and the house would have made more.

You should have had your last week of bowling and THEN the following week you have your meeting. Saves from waiting around on people to finish bowling. thats how our league does it anyway. Has been working great. You have your last week of bowling, following week have your roll-offs then the next week have your payout and discussion of that seasons issues and a few ideas for next season. You should then have a fall meeting (captains and officers only) to discuss by-laws and other problems that may have occured the previous season for the upcoming season.

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Mr. Natty Boh
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Natty Boh Bowling Team


Edited on 5/14/2009 12:34 PM

We always paid the teams that did not make the playoffs first.  They could always leave if they wanted afterward.  Some people stay around for sweeper and crossover doubles payouts.  We always elected officers the next season.

Smash49

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First of all just be glad you got your prize money.. I bowled a league where the secretary stole the money and we don't get any money now. We aren't covered by USBC due to the fact there wasn't an audit done every month like they say you must do! Therefore we get nothing and the secretary probably is going to jail.

Second of all that is why you have a meeting to elect officers and to make changes. If you think the secretary gets paid to much, bring it up during the meeting and vote to change the fee. The fee is not set and can be changed at any point in time!!

Third of all most leagues here in Vegas pay the bowlers before sweepers start that night, you bowl the sweeper, then sweeper and individual money is given to you at the end. This way you stay for the whole thing. Because you do have to select officers for the following years league!

Forth of all there should of been a prize fund voted on by every team. Therefore you knew what you were getting back, if you didn't that is your bad for not paying attention. It shouldn't of been a surprise as to how much was coming back. Nor the fact that there was no individual awards!

Fifth of all normally most 6pm leagues get down about 815-830, so you sat around an extra hour and a half. Really is your life that crazy that sitting around for a little extra time to get back money is that big of a deal?!
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George Palumbo

Mvpbowler, Here in memphis, no league in town gets down prior to 9:30pm with a 6:30 start. NONE!!! I hate it.

Sorry to hear about your league prize fund. Had the same thing happen here in town a couple years ago... but the secretary ended up paying it back and the guy was accepted back into USBC but never to hold office again. (Apparently there was compassion for his situation, because he became an alcoholic during the season after his wife dead of a heart attack and spent the league money entering brackets and gambled at the casino's to spend his time).

And I agree, I will get involved. I have been in bowling for 40 years but have never seen what appears to be such a flagrant advantage. So many people in the audiance were complaining and yet no one said anything during the vote for office.