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PBA averages
« on: November 24, 2004, 02:29:12 AM »
Do you think PBA averages will be up this year?

I believe they will in that all the games will be bowled on one pair instead of moving after each game in the qualifying rounds. This also will allow a player to create a shot on the lanes.  

Also before if you had a bad reaction you had to stay on the lanes for at least 9 games (18 in the old format), in today’s format you could be gone in 4 games.

If an average record is set should it have and asterisk next to it?

 

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Re: PBA averages
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2004, 12:08:12 PM »
Bones - I agree.

out in 4 just isn't right - no matter how "exciting" the format is...
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Re: PBA averages
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2004, 07:31:49 AM »
Obviously I can’t speak for all of them and I can only relay what my perception of their attitude is.

Many, particularly the veterans, do not miss the grind of qualifying and uncertainty of getting whether they will get a paycheck for the week. They also realize that the match play format is more exciting and easier to understand by the casual fan.

On the other hand they don’t really believe that this format identifies who is bowling the best. Take last week. If you went by average alone Rick Lawrence, the champion wouldn’t have even come close to making the show.

Plus while they are exempt their status is tenuous and there is a lot of pressure to stay in the top 40 this year because they know getting back out will be tough.

Also bowling the Pro-ams on Saturday is tough for the guys who lost a close match in the round of 8. They are let down by just missing the show and they had just put in 10+ hours of grueling match play the day before.

As far as the variation in their scores, the lanes don’t transition in ways that we are accustomed to. Some of the transitions seem to be almost random. Yes they have experienced these before but every lane surface is different and the patterns react differently. Also because of the match play format it doesn’t matter whether you lose by 1 or 100, once they are out of a game they will experiment to try and find a better line. This often leads to some bad frames and a subsequent bad score. But it may line them up for the next game.


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Re: PBA averages
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2004, 09:28:01 PM »
There is only one way that we can get a "Tiger Woods" (a single dominate bowler recognized as being the "BEST" bowler) type player in bowling. And that is to decide what specific skills are going to be required and limit it to that so that the "bowler" can hone those skills and dominate week to week. All the PBA does with its "patterns" is spread the money around to the different "types" of bowlers. The best bowler(s) in the world on particular pattern(s) probally did not make the top 64 and is not allowed to compete because they could not compete on the other patterns. The entire Bowling Industry is about "is this my pattern?" and this is causing many bowlers to consider not competing.

Do I think the averages will be up this year. Yes I do. Fewer games every week and less games in the year will raise averages. Match game only (no qualifying) will also contribute to higher scores because many of the top players only concerned themselves with "making" the cut during qualifying in the previous years. They did not bowl to the best of there ability.


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Re: PBA averages
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2004, 07:46:50 AM »
A player is said to be dominant, not dominate.  Dominate is a verb.

Sorry, it's my job.

Aside from fishing for a better line once the game has been lost, we have to remember that, with the scores being what they are today, it's all about throwing strikes.  This causes players to walk the high wire, which leads to either strikes or splits. That's another reason why we see a 279 game, followed by a 153.

It's all or nothing nowadays.
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Re: PBA averages
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2004, 06:29:14 AM »
I rather liked the qualifying myself, and dislike the idea of only having 4 bowlers per show.  They wouldn't have to have all that filler junk in the shows if they'd figure out a way to get the wild card back in there.
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