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Nicanor

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PBA head to head competition
« on: November 06, 2003, 03:36:22 AM »
I'm sure the PBA is still using total pins for qualifying rounds, but in later rounds they use head to head competition for eliminating bowlers.  Do you think it should be total pins all the way to the finals like in the old day, or do you like the head to head competition?

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The Hose

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Re: PBA head to head competition
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2003, 09:20:09 PM »
As far as who bowled the best in that tournament that week, I liked the old format.  The guy who could kill them in qualifying, have a good matchplay record would be the number 1 seed and only need to win one game on the show to take the money and title.

While the 'no carry over pins' format allows for a more exciting atmosphere.  The number 32 seed can beat the number 1 seed in a best of seven match at any time.  I do agree with Bob that the cream will rise to the top at the end of a season.  It's just a shame to see a guy bowl so great through 18 games and be eliminated because of catching a hot bowler or a bad pair.  It's also tough on guys that bowled great in match play and they would have beaten anyone else in the field with those games except the one they bowled.  Just a couple of weeks ago, Chris Johnson was bowling Chris Haden (not sure) but both bowled really bad.  Haden won the match and only shot one game over.  If he would have bowled that against anyone else in the field, he would have gotten beat.

Another thing I think about is this.  They keep the scores updated and visible to the bowlers as how they are doing.  It could influence the way a guy bowled in his last game or two in the round of 64.  If you knew you were in, you may be able to tell who you'd get matched against if the numbers stayed the same.  A bowler may prefer to bowl the number one seed as opposed to the number two seed.  In this case, he may back off and make sure he qualified 32nd instead of 31st.  I'm really not sure if that has ever come into play or don't know if it every would, but the possibility of that happening is there.

I'd just hate see a guy bowl great for 18 games be eliminated because of someone bowling better then him for 4.
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Re: PBA head to head competition
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2003, 11:16:25 AM »
I belive to be true Bob,  I'm not sure about next year though.
CJ's first cut, even though he qualified pretty high, he had to bowl the #1 seed, which was Walter Ray.
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Re: PBA head to head competition
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2003, 01:22:19 PM »
The PBA based some of the new format from tennis seedings.  They are trying to get the big-name players to the finals.  That is why the matchplay seedings are based on the rankings from the last 20 tournaments.  Tennis is obviously different because you must have an opponent whereas bowling can just use total pins.  Matchplay in bowling looks to be more marketable because of the one-on-one rivalries.  Matchplay is also easier to determine who is winning.  Total pinfall qualifying rounds could have leaders scattered all over the building.  This makes it difficult for the fan to follow the best players for the week.
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Re: PBA head to head competition
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2003, 02:04:06 PM »
IMHO total pins would be a better indicator of who is bowling the best but for putting on a show the matches are a better format.

Like ksucat said. The casual fan understands the match play. Best out of seven with head to head scoring spectators can relate to. The old format was harder to follow and keep to up on who was winning.

Even under the old format I didn’t like the bonus pins for winning a match. Sometimes a pro would simply meet the right bowler on the right pair an win a lot of matches with scores that were not that high.

The head to head matches also lends itself more to being televised either thru a sport channel or on the web as they tried with strikepass.

The step ladder final under the old format was flawed to a degree as well in that often you would see someone lead the  tournament by 400+ pins but lose in the final match ending up second. Regionals use to carry over pins but often like the above example the leader would be so far ahead the final match meant nothing.
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