Author Topic: Perfect tournament (Read 1512 times)

SrKegler · « **on:** October 18, 2003, 01:28:27 AM »

It seems like it's impossible to get more than 50 60 entries in any local tournaments.

Other than competition, what would it take to get you bowl a tournament.

Bear in mind us ball review members aren't what I consider "normal" bowlers. There has to be some way to generate more interest and participation.

How about checking with your league members and find out why/why not bowl tournaments.
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9andaWiggle · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2003, 06:35:48 PM »

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louie · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2003, 04:26:04 AM »

I only enter one tourney at most a year. I average just over 200. I have no shot at the scratch tournaments and no shot at a handicap tournament due to sandbaggers. Why would I enter a tourney when my all time high series (750) wouldn't cash?
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MTFD24 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2003, 04:42:24 AM »

Nowadays I usually just bowl in the State Fireman's Tournament and the Buffalo Bowling Assoc Tourney, mostly for above mentioned reasons...seeing old friends, and other tournaments there is not much chance for the 185-205 average bowler.

In the past we had twice monthly tournaments in the area that travelled between a few houses. Frank Casio ran them, and despite being handicapped, it seemed to bring in 100 plus bowlers each weeken it ran. The handicap was 80% of 210 (back then 210 was like 225 now). If you cashed, you lost pins next time entered (# depended on finish), if you didn't cash, you were given bonus pins for next entry.

Now that was a fantastic format, and if it was around today, I would get back into it.
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B Pirnie · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2003, 08:07:45 AM »

The perfect tournament exists and starts this sunday with two squads. It continues next weekend with a few more qualifing squads then a round robin matchplay on next sunday. It is 5 games qualifing with no reentries. Lanes are oiled 1;1 to around 38 feet. Normally around 160 brave souls will enter and those that can stay over 185 will cash. The winner normally is around 205 or less and gets $1000. It is called the Sandhills and is taking place at 30 Bowl in Fremont Nebraska. The next event should be in early January in the Omaha area.

ThongPrincess · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2003, 06:17:21 PM »

SrKegler, You know I love to bowl tournaments and have traveled quite a distance to bowl. For me it is a chance to meet new people and challenge myself on a condition I may never see in my area. But, as you said, I am not the typical bowler.

I have trouble convincing friends to enter City and State. Travel is not an issue with City but they say they don't have a chance to cash. Too many people are only in it for the money. If that were the case for me, I'd probably never enter a tournament. There are some things you can't put a price on. Oh no, I sound like a MasterCard commercial...Tournament entry fee $100, Travel Expenses $200, new friends PRICELESS.

So the perfect tournament is one that offers a challenge, but not an impossible one, a reasonable cost, and chance to meet new people.
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Game In a BoxLC · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2003, 11:45:09 PM »

even though i participate in many tournaments, i am becoming disgusted because of the shot they put out. Every tournament i go to, i shoot well, average 220 or so and get my head handed to me by yokels who would do NOTHING on a tougher flat pattern. I won't average 220 on a tough shot either, but i would average 200 or higher. I know what everyone is gunna say, it isn't how its how many. But alot of these guys just don't have a clue about bowling, technology, what their doing, etc. and just throw the ball somewere and score. 220 isn't a bad score i consider it rather good. I averaged for 5 games 225 and didn't even make the top 15.

I want a tournament where a 220 game is considered good, and once in awhile someone gets hot and shoots a big game. But i rarely get in jackpot anymore because you have to shoot 279 JUST TO HAVE A CHANCE. In fact i have shot 279 and not even gotten second in a jackpot. I'm not saying a sport shot, but comon don't wall em up.
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David Lee Yskes · « **Reply #7 on:** October 20, 2003, 12:48:46 AM »

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NOTHUMB · « **Reply #8 on:** October 20, 2003, 03:25:02 AM »

I am an above average bowler in this area. I dont like bowling big tourneys with the big guns cuz I dont have the ego of the big guns. I dont enjoy their attitude and just bowl for fun. I bowl Nationals, and the PA state tourney. I am not a handicap bowler, so I wont bowl those tourneys. I bowl states and its a joke---if I bowled more tourneys like that throughout the year Id quit. I bowl Nationals and it all seems worthwhile.
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Pinbuster · « **Reply #9 on:** October 20, 2003, 08:50:19 AM »

I remember bowling in our state tournament 30 years ago and you figured that if you shot 10 to 15 pins a game over your average in singles that you would cash. The low to cash in singles would be around 640 with handicap. Handicap was 75% of 210 I believe (getting old and memory sometimes fails me). Now you need to shoot around 700 to cash which is around 20 to 25 pins per game over. Handicap is now 80% or 220.

What has changed? I believe the biggest difference is that now it is about matching up to the condition. In the past it generally was about who bowled the best. Who found the pocket and made their spares. Today at least one in 6 will just happen to match up. Because of this they will shoot at least 20 pins a game over their normal average, particularly the 170 to 190 average bowlers. The lower averages generally donâ€™t matter and the higher averages generally their averages already reflect the ability to move and match up. Simply going to the tournament a bowling well isnâ€™t enough.

Because we also live in a â€œwhatâ€™s in it for meâ€ society today few go to tournaments for the competition but they will only go if they feel they have a better than 50 â€“ 50 chance of winning more than their entry back. Since generally the payout is 1 in 6, the numbers continue to dwindle as they donâ€™t cash after a few tournaments.