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northface28

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PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« on: May 18, 2004, 01:00:04 AM »
Why are PBA shots softer than sport shots? Too often the casual bowler thinks that the PBA patterns are very tough when they actually are not that tough. On PBA patterns you still have to throw it good, make adjustments, etc. But overall sport shots are tougher than the PBA patterns. Remember a few years back when the PBA used sports patterns instead of the letter patterns? I do and those shots were tough and the scores were low.
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Re: PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 04:08:20 PM »
What?
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Re: PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2004, 05:23:39 PM »
The surfaces are bad, so what. Do the tour guys cry that much that they have to be on the most pristine of lane surfaces? " The sport pattern simply did not yield a fair challenging condition to a wide enough variety of styles on tour." This statement reminds me of men's league. It has to cater to everyone. I know not all sport patterns are tough but to feed these tour guys 5 patterns year in and year out is silly. They are the best in the world and I feel they they play on the most diffucult patterns, i.e. U.S. Open which was sport compliant, for most of the season.
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Re: PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2004, 06:26:17 PM »
Well put Bob.

While I do enjoy the sport shots and think it is a major step up from a house shot, it simply magnifies one of the problems we see on the PBA with their PBA patterns.  That is that certain bowlers will match up better on certain shots than others.

To further explain, let's divide the PBA into two types of players.  Player A doesn't really seem to have one thing that he/she does exceptionally well, but rather he/she can score fairly well and grind fairly well on all shots.  Versatility is this bowler's strong point.  

Player B has one or maybe two things that he/she does exceptionally well and can dominate when their "bread and butter" pattern comes along.  While these players can look dominating on some patterns, they can look equally as lost on other patterns.

The ultimate goal (I hope) is to create a few oil patterns where everybody has a chance depending on who actually bowls better.  Many of the current PBA patterns play better for certain player types than for others.  In other words, players from Group B that I described above that match up on the right patterns will do very well when their patterns are put out.  For the most part, the sport shots only magnify this problem.

One discussion going on in bowling circles is to limit the equipment that players can use on the different sport patterns to help eliminate this problem as well.  That way people can't say "I didn't have the right ball for the pattern," because everybody would be basically using the same ball or bowling balls with the same basic specs and drilling restrictions.

So Northface, please realize that the PBA didn't reject the sport patterns because they were "too difficult", rather because they weren't as fair for everyone.  Correct me if I'm wrong Bob.
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Re: PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2004, 04:47:52 PM »
Points are all well taken. But when you say "fair" are you speaking in terms of left vs right or style vs style? I think the patterns were fair, its just that astronomical scores werent put up thus deeming the shots "unfair". Whats the problem with shooting 160 or 170 on a very challenging shot? I dont find a problem with it if the entire field is in the realm of those scores. Whats the fun in bowling on pattern E when 25% of the field is averaging well over 235? I will never understand this no "fair" talk. Will some bowlers be shut out some weeks? Maybe so. But those guys are professionals and its their job to compete on the worlds toughest conditions. Make them too tough they arent fair, give a little area and the pros make it look like China. And we wonder what the "problem" with bowling is.
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Re: PBA patterns vs Sports Shots
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2004, 05:19:27 PM »
Bob,

Much better. Now I have a clear understanding of what you mean. I agree with the guys being that good and technology being that advanced. I also agree with the "throw them a bone" thoery. It probably wouldnt be much fun to watch them grind 180 games, game after game, week after week.
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