BallReviews
General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: scrub49 on December 15, 2013, 08:23:17 AM
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I have some balls that if I use the perfect scale do hook more or less like the numbers says but others not so like my tropical heat has an scale of 169.9 and my strike king 187 or so. The tropical out hooks the strike king by 5 to 6 boards I know drilling set up can make an difference my question is that if each ball is laid out the same should the strike king hook more
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No. The Tropical Heat should hook more than the Strike King.
The Strike King should hook slightly more than the Tropical Breeze.
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Too many factors to accurately compare a ball from one manufacture. When comparing multiple manufactures it is a guesstimate game.
Other factors of bowling style and conditions will be a huge part of it as well.
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Oh boy . . this comes down to a lot of things, one of which being a difference in apparent hook and actual hook. The tropical heat will appear to hook more on drier conditions, because that's what it was made for. The more oil you have, the less the tropical heat will hook, while the strike king will still maintain a decent amount of hook. Hook ratings are on oil, not on dry, and oil obviously makes a big difference. Here are a couple links to articles that will help you better understand why the tropical heat "appears" to be outhooking your strike king:
http://www.epicbowling.com/pro-shop-tips/lessons-in-ball-reaction-pt-1/
http://www.epicbowling.com/bowling-tips/lessons-in-ball-reaction-pt-2/
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My strike king use to appears to hook more than an mass eruption, the shot was light oil with clean backends.
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And that makes sense because the lighter the oil, the more surface area the ball will have in contact with the lane. More oil means less aggressive balls will hydroplane, while the more aggressive balls won't have a lot of surface area in contact with the lane, but they will have some.
Did you read the articles? It's like tires. Racing slicks are perfect for Nascar, because the surface is dry tacky asphalt. Could you use them on snow? Hell no. How about snow tires? Better for snow, but not perfect, but could you use them on a stock car? They technically have more grip, right? Not the case, they'd shred inside of a lap while the car is sliding all over the place. Same deal with "aggressive" balls on dry lanes. They just roll out and die while your tropical heat goes nuts. Same principle.
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The Perfect Scale is far from perfect...
IHMO it's worthless and I will consider it to be a smoke and mirrors marketing scheme until they elude to how the numbers are arrived at...
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When there is built in hook difference becomes closer...take away side to side friction, flatten pattern and differences increase.
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What I forgot to mention was once I had carry down or move deeper in oil the true nature of the strike king and mass eruption comes out.
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Are you reading anything any of us are saying? If you are, it doesn't seem like you're getting the point. Once you get carry down, or once you get into more oil, you'll see a truer nature of every ball. Hook ratings are in oil, not on dry. If it's light oil, ignore them completely, and if it's in heavy oil, you may at least get a ballpark idea, but it's still not "perfect."
What I forgot to mention was once I had carry down or move deeper in oil the true nature of the strike king and mass eruption comes out.
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I get what you are saying I probably just not expressing myself right I was just wondering if that means hook rate in oil or back-ends. I remember when Columbia would give both hook rate in oil and back-end. Thanks Gizmo for your advice on ball span and pitch since then shot 2 300 games remind of the days I had my PBA card I don't bowl as much I as use to so just a little rusty on what going on with these different ball rating system. Forgive me if some times I ramble a bit.
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Oh that's fine, just some of the comments or statements you were making made it sound like you hadn't seen what we had said.
I get what you are saying I probably just not expressing myself right I was just wondering if that means hook rate in oil or back-ends. I remember when Columbia would give both hook rate in oil and back-end. Thanks Gizmo for your advice on ball span and pitch since then shot 2 300 games remind of the days I had my PBA card I don't bowl as much I as use to so just a little rusty on what going on with these different ball rating system. Forgive me if some times I ramble a bit.
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IMO the perfect scale is accurate as long as you only compare Brunswick, Storm, DV8 and RotoGrip balls. When looking at Columbia, Track, Ebonite and Hammer only compare them to each other. I notice there are more videos etc. of the first brands and less of the second, leading me to believe they are trying to make the first four sound like they are making much stronger equipment. I've owned a couple ebonite balls and a couple Brunswick that had simular charictaristics and were in fact very simular, while the scale on bowlingball.com makes them look quite different.
They do put all of the balls statistics on the site. Try to learn about them and compare them that way.
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I will keep that in mind morty recently I been rolling balls given me and notice that there maybe slight difference in companies when I compare their's numbers on the scale. One ball I have is DV8 other Track both has scale of 192 both drilled for length DV8 get in a roll 2 feet sooner I figured it was the ball cover which I understand is around 70% of the reaction. Most times I uses Bowler's Journal chart to compare length and back-end.