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BrianCRX90

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Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« on: August 06, 2007, 02:44:14 PM »
There was a time...back in 1999 about when the particles came out like the Columbia Chaos which I said "that's it, nothing will ever be stronger then that". I also said that about the Storm El Nino, Ebonite Tombstone, Brunswick Danger Zone when they came out. Those were just the solids. The pearls to me didn't get much stronger to me until the early 00's when I first used a Storm Eraser and said "that's it, this is the strongest pearl ever...any more length and backend would be overkill". Then many other manufactures came out with strong pearls. Then the particle pearls came out and I thought that was it, then the particles got better and then liquefied traction balls came in like the Bully and Inferno.

Has balls gotten that much stronger since the late 90's or has every bowling center in the United States really changed the amount and type of oil along with centers using different types of synthetic lanes (since hardly any center replaces lanes with wood anymore). If balls are getting stronger, what are the chances of lanes becoming wider and longer with bigger pins? None, because unlike Golf, you cannot change much of the lanes...it's just not possible. You can do things like change the feel angles of the kickbacks, deepen the gutters, change the material of the pindeck and most of all, change the shape, material and density of the pins. Then the oil technology is always a factor.

But since most of these are not changing all that much....has bowling balls finally peaked? Sure you can make some minor coverstock changes, make them stronger, make them last more and make the core designs more dynamic but there has to get a point when too much ball is too much ball. Are we all going to buy balls in 5 years what in order to get a controllable reaction we are going to have to drill it not less then 6" from the pin to pap? Throw some of the latest balls on some of the houses that still uses oil patterns and lane materials from the 80's and see how well your normal shot works there. Then your 200 dollar ball you get to work on a straight game where you hardly do anything to the ball and it literally hooks for you.
10 years ago every ball that came out I was dying to see what it did on the lanes. Now I don't go into pro shops much anymore because new balls are boring to me. They don't do anything I haven't seen or I don't have. Do you really get excited when a new ball comes out anymore?

 

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Re: Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 11:14:58 PM »
I think they have peaked to some extent.  I don't see the need for a bigger hooking ball than what's currently on the market.

I do feel that reaction consistency will get better each year.  This is the part they have not peaked with.  



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Re: Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 04:30:59 AM »
The brakes ahave already been pushed - RG diff. is limited to "only" 0.06", so cores are developed for other aspects like strong mass bias.

From the coverstocks, we are IMHO currently in a new phase where particle seems to become rather obsolete for oil balls - see the Fury as an example. And the covers are so "strong" or reactive to the lane surface, that the cores can become "weaker" just to compensate and keep the balls effectively on the lane. Again, look at the Fury (lower Rg. diff, higher RG comp. to Infernos).

Despite this development, I am not sure if I like this trend. I have the impression that balls become more and more itchy. Sharp hook and responsiveness to dry lane parts might sell well for the show effect, but I am not a fan of this.
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BrianCRX90

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Re: Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 10:56:03 PM »
The consistancy of the reactions is getting better. I'm starting to wonder if anything out there is much stronger then it was a few years ago, but the overall consistancy with reactions, entry angles and wet to dry transition is improving.
Again though, I'm not excited by some of these(most of) bowling manufactures feeling the need to release so many balls and discontinue good balls that barley had time to be sold off the shelf.

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Re: Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 07:37:19 AM »
I don't think balls will be made that hook much more what do you need it for? My Awesome Hook was almost to much for Nationals in a OOB.

What I think is going to happen is reactions will become more consistent on more conditions i.e. more versatile equipment.

One thing I would like to see is a ball that is designed to hook less everyone makes stuff and brag about how much it hooks or snaps how about a ball for lighter conditions that hooks and snaps less!
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Re: Balls getting stronger or better or have we peaked?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2007, 10:21:15 AM »
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I don't think balls will be made that hook much more what do you need it for? My Awesome Hook was almost to much for Nationals in a OOB.

What I think is going to happen is reactions will become more consistent on more conditions i.e. more versatile equipment.

One thing I would like to see is a ball that is designed to hook less everyone makes stuff and brag about how much it hooks or snaps how about a ball for lighter conditions that hooks and snaps less!
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This I would love to see....every time a new ball comes out its the new hook monster.  Lately though, I have been trying to find some weak stuff just because most of the mid priced stuff I have is too much ball for the lanes in my area.

Maybe some of the manufacturers need to take a hint, and give us some stuff that doesn't have the most backend of any ball ever created.
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