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thegreatone300

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Who's responsible??
« on: November 20, 2007, 02:34:01 PM »
A little Backround first, I bowl in an older house with wood lanes.  I have been bowling there in a league for the last two years.  I have know the owner since I was a kid (family friend).  After last week, i went to clean my Ebo Ice and realized a decent sized scrape in my track(~1").  It was right where the bow ties meet on the back of my ball.  I just figured that it was just a one time thing, and no big deal.  
Tonight in league, I used my black widow. After the first 5 Frames i realized that had two scrapes identical and in the same place as my ice.  Now i knew there was something wrong.  By the ninth frame I had two more scrapes directly between the other two.  Come to find out, when i was putting my ball down early, part of the foul line was sticking up and was taking a piece out of my ball everytime i hit it.  The ball slightly tracks over all four scrapes in my ball.  
Sorry for dragging this out, but here is my question.   Is this my fault for putting the ball down early, or should i hold the owner responsible?  I was told b/c the marks were in my track they could not be plugged without messing up the track more and the only way to fix it would be to resurface until they were gone which i don't want to have to do.  
Thanks for taking the time to read this and any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 10:50:50 PM »
The house should repair the ball free of charge.  You can pour plug material into the scrap and then resurface and it will be good as new.

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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 10:57:11 PM »
As long as the scrapes are minor, plug material shouldn't have that great of an effect on the balls performance.

  If the scrapes bother you, or affect the roll of the ball, plug the scrapes and it should be fine.


P.S.  The only 800 series I ever shot is with a ball that had a small crack in the track area which I had drilled out and plugged.  Shot 812 two weeks later with it.
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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 12:10:02 AM »
#1 Make sure the center knows which lane is causing the damage so they can find out what's causing it, and #2 Let the center repair ir free of charge, or pay someone else if they don't have a pro shop...



On edit, have them fix their "foul fence"...
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Edited on 11/21/2007 9:52 AM

NicholasE

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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 07:50:05 AM »
I had a peice to come out of my spare ball one time, took it to the counter and they took it and payed the pro shop to fix it. I don't know what cause it though, but they should do the repairs or resurfacing for free.

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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2007, 08:01:23 AM »
As far as I can tell, the use of your own balls is at your own risk. If there is any repair or damage compensation, it is IMHO 100% up to the lane proprietor. Sure, if the management is smart they take care of their customers and do not risk bad publicity about rotten and ball-eating machines... But some houses give nothing on players' complaints, or even well-meant advice that something might be wrong or better been taken care of to avoid further damage.

I had the case that my Eraser Particle Pearl had been completely swallowed by the lane machine and must have fallen out of the machine, under the bottom of the lane. First of all, they told me to come next day because the area under the lanes would only be accessible without everyday traffic, and when I got the ball back it was bruised and scratched - it would have needed a resurfacing. But no compensation at all, not even a free game. Consequently, I never played there again (but also for other reasons that go into the same direction).
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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2007, 08:49:30 AM »
They might fix one of two marks for free.  But its your fault for continuing to bowl after you saw damage.  You should have stopped play on the pair, told the management and either have them fix the problem or move you guys.  Its also your fault for not getting the ball over the foul line.  But since USBC doesnt' consider that a foul (which they should) there's not much you can do except hope the house fixes it.  

Its one of the shop's biggest pet peeves.  People that see damage to their balls and keep bowling anyway.  I think its because of this practise of keep bowling that a lot of centers have signs up saying they are not responsible for damage to balls.  

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Re: Who's responsible??
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2007, 08:56:55 AM »
I'm no lawyer, but surely if the damage has been caused as a result of improperly maintained playing environment (the foul line in this case) then wouldn't the owner be liable, regardless of "using equipment at your own risk"?

I think if you continue bowling after the first piece of damage, then extra damage is at the proprietor's discretion.

The "use at your own risk" is generally put in place to deter people bringing in a hacked up ball and claiming a new one. I've had balls damaged a couple of times, and have always had the offer of repair at the very least (even if I haven't taken them up on it) and I believe that these offers were made, because it was obvious the damage was new, and I was reasonable about it (apart from the first time... my ball was 5 hours old and had chunks taken out of it by a stone on the lane)
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