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Title: plastic balls
Post by: Big Jake on June 30, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Greetings All

 For those of you that throw plastic balls with a core (I'm presuming they are very close in reaction) how much do they differ with just a regular plastic ball?

 My center is super dry by the 3rd game and so today in practice I threw about 3 games using just my plastic ball and I was really surprised at the small yet controllable hook with pretty good carry I was getting.

 So I thought I would come in here and ask  ;) also how much difference in power is the Lanemasters Hornet vs plastic balls with a core....Thanks
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: FlappersRevenge on June 30, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
Plastic with a core will carry better and *maybe* hook slightly more, otherwise I don't recall there being much of a difference. You can play some different angles if you have a plastic ball with a core when the shot is that dry.

People are complaining that my house is bone dry, but I bowled after a league the other night and had no problems whatsoever for the first 3 games before the shot really got burnt.
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: completebowler on June 30, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
I swear by my Taboo Spare for burned up shots playing up through the friction. It works very well for me. That said I recently drilled a True Blood for my buddy and was using it a couole weeks ago. It was 2-4 boards stronger than my Taboo. Enough difference to move my feet and make me think they may have used a different formulation to create a softer plastic cover.

I would recommend the True Blood to anyone interested in doing what you are trying to do. Hit was amazing....I cannot tell you how excited I was to see how well it performed.
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: milorafferty on July 01, 2013, 12:36:11 AM
The Hornet is quite a bit stronger than a plastic ball with a core.

While some plastic balls like the taboo spare may have  a stronger core, the Hornet still has a reactive resin coverstock, it is just a harder formulation than the Evolution coverstock that was on the original Buzz.
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: charlest on July 01, 2013, 07:21:26 AM
The Hornet is quite a bit stronger than a plastic ball with a core.

While some plastic balls like the taboo spare may have  a stronger core, the Hornet still has a reactive resin coverstock, it is just a harder formulation than the Evolution coverstock that was on the original Buzz.

I agree with Milo. I had the Hornet and have the Taboo Spare. I normally use a plain T-Zone for spares. The Taboo hooks more and adds a tiny bit of continuation for strikes, as pancake cored balls, in general, have very little continuation. The extra differential on the Taboo makes it a better strike ball on dry lanes, but it cannot compare to the hitting and carry power of a resin ball. Only when it's so bone dry that I can't get a resin through the heads does the Taboo come into pay for me. I haven't carried the Taboo to leagues or tournaments for a long time now. Only this summer where they oil very little have I even thought of digging it out to use.
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: Big Jake on July 01, 2013, 10:18:23 AM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: MikeJohnsPro on July 01, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
My wife swears by her taboo, lol She says she can controll it better on the third game.
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: Dave800 on July 01, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
Shot 803 with my taboo spare
old wood lanes, very little volume

i bet 6 or 7 were on the lanes as a 1st ball option near the end of the year
scuffed mine a little by hand (4000), but crazy good carry
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: avabob on July 05, 2013, 01:40:01 PM
I had the XXXL and you could see a significant difference in the core reaction compared to my target zone.  However, the big limitation on plastic is oil volume and carry down, which a stronger core will not help with. 

I actually prefer urethane to plastic for both spare shooting and dry conditions.  Plastic tends to jerk a little quicker on the dry, and squirt a little more on oil compared to urethane. 
Title: Re: plastic balls
Post by: BIG G NC on July 05, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
If you place the cg of a pancaked core 4" from your pap at a 45 degree angle towards the fingers. This will give you more flare and some more bend in it to kick out the corner pins. You will need a low top weight ball and a balance whole to eliminate the finger weight. Place it on a line from grip center through the cg where it crosses your Val. I have one I drilled like this a couple of years ago that has bailed me out on toasted lanes.