Author Topic: Plastic With a Core (Read 5242 times)

n00dlejester · « **on:** December 05, 2008, 04:07:32 AM »

So about 3 months ago I picked up my very first plastic spare ball. I can safely say I am infatuated and in love with this ball. When the lanes are even remotely dry, I find myself using it. And the carry is actually pretty sweet. I've smacked out more 4 5 7s with a headpin from the wall with this piece than any other piece I've ever thrown. I was thinking of finding an old plastic ball with a core in it to give it a try. My question to you is: Does anybody make one? I want a light-bulb core, something from years past. I don't want an XXXL.

Thanks for the help!

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J_Mac · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2008, 08:11:24 PM »

There were 3 plastic JPF Axes if I recall. Plastic with an asymmetric core anyone?

charlest · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2008, 08:39:04 PM »

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I'm gonna throw out the Visionary Slate Blue Gargoyle.. polished urethane.. but if you super polish it it might as well be plastic.. hits like a fricken truck.. call them up and ask if they have any.... $85 shipped..
there are also some Visionary red amulet and glowing amulet.. the red is plastic.. the glowing is urethane..

Mine is a six inch pin to pap with .5 micron polish and. Delay reation. It works great for 10 pins with speed and can slow it down and get some hook too

The SBG Not even close.
It's stronger and earlier than many of my resin dry lanes balls. I tried Friday night and took out the 2/4, when I tried to go down the 6/7 board.
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Mine is a six inch pin to pap with .5 micron polish and. Delay reation. It works great for 10 pins with speed and can slow it down and get some hook too

Well, that's sort of hardly the SBG anymore. You kind of converted it into a much weaker ball. Although you started with an SBG, that surface treatment is extreme.

While mine has a 5"+ pin, high over the center of the bridge, its cover is stock, 1500 grit polished and I have to believe its reaction is more typical of the breed. Urethane, even pearl urethane, is early rolling compared to most polished resin pearls.
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JessN16 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 06, 2008, 09:39:15 PM »

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Prior to the Ebonite Gemstones, there were two old companies that produced clear plastic balls with cores.

Gem Tek was one which produced clear plastic balls with bell shaped weightblocks in them which varied in color (named Gem Star, I still have a yellow one). They also had a lite blue sparkle/glitter "soft" plastic to sell against yellow dots called the "Pro Line" (had that one too).

Teknika(sp?) was another company around the same era which also made clear plastic with cores (can't remember the shape) but they were not as clear as the balls produced by Gem Tek. These companies were around about 30 yrs ago.

Not sure how "dynamic" these cores were (if at all) but they existed.

If I ever go broke, you may see my Gem Star up on ebay...haha
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I had one of those Gem Tek sparkle balls -- had "GT Custom" stamped on it. When I got it, it had already been plugged about a dozen times. I used it until I chipped out around the finger holes and then gave it away to someone. Wish I still had it.

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2008, 03:50:49 AM »

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Tenpinspro: The Randolph's Classic Technica II had what was called a hemispheric weight block. Half of the core was an over sized pancake block. It had a hardness of 70 on the d-scale.

The Gem Tek had the famous gumball core. The one similar to the yellow dot was the Diamond GT it was blue see through with sparkles.

Thanks for the clarification turquoise (you're making me feel old cause I remember the name Randolph Classic now..haha). I just remember my pro line outhooking the gem star, thought it matched against the Col YD, blue roto, mag nine days.

Why was the core in the Gem Tek called a "gumball"? Mine resembles a bell or maybe a "gum drop" shape, just curious.

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so are these worth anything?very rare,hard to find?did they carry well?I have a red randolf classic that I was going to sell but may keep it.

They're pretty rare I'd say. May be worth something imho because of age and how unique they are. I haused mine and brought it back to almost OOB condition, was a nice conversation piece in the shop.

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There were 3 plastic JPF Axes if I recall. Plastic with an asymmetric core anyone?

I only had a black urethane axe in the 80's, never knew about the plastic version.
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n00dlejester · « **Reply #20 on:** December 08, 2008, 07:24:40 AM »

I want to get an older one, as noted in my original post. And I can find a used one of these and re-drill it cheaper than an XXXL.

Thanks for all the heads up and help guys, I appreciate it.
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triggerman · « **Reply #21 on:** December 08, 2008, 07:38:45 AM »

you should be able to find a used xxxl for 50 bucks or less

word of caution bout old bowling balls
you do not know how well they were taking care of or how much heat cold transitions they have gone thru, cracking could be a very big concern with some older stuff

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tgs300 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 08, 2008, 10:31:10 AM »

I've got a Red Technika II Professional Silver Bullet, which has a bullet shaped core that runs along the grip center line. I've never seen another one of this model.

It flares a fair amount and has a cover "containing a minor quantity of functionally terminated liquid elastomer combined with a major quantity of resin-forming material reactive with the functional end groups of the elastomer, and has a greatly enhanced coefficient of friction against ordinary bowling lane surfaces, permitting superior control of the path of the ball and therefore better scores by the bowler."

If you're interested, the information about the cover came from the patent...
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4131277.html

I'd love to find a used 15lbs XXXL for under $50....I've been looking and haven't seen any in that price range.

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blacknois · « **Reply #23 on:** December 08, 2008, 10:38:12 AM »

you could try a slate blue gargoyle if you could find one, they have a full core, but are urethane, great for burnt lanes

J_w73 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 08, 2008, 04:55:02 PM »

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you could try a slate blue gargoyle if you could find one, they have a full core, but are urethane, great for burnt lanes

I already suggested that ball and was told It was a bad suggestion..

charlest · « **Reply #25 on:** December 08, 2008, 05:15:15 PM »

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you could try a slate blue gargoyle if you could find one, they have a full core, but are urethane, great for burnt lanes

Not really. Many polished resin dry lanes balls go much longer than pearlized urethane:
Neptune
B/G Centaur
Tropical Storm
Avalanche pearl & Slide
Orbit Extreme
Hornet
Power Groove Dry/R
Lane#1 Bullet
etc.

The main advantage of pearl urethane is less backend.

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