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Title: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 23, 2004, 06:44:05 PM: Hi all, I need a new ball for league. My ball is totaly dead and want I something for medium oil normal house shot I want something for playing around 4th arrow I liketo throw it out and watch it come back with medium revs medium track throwing around 14 and a half mph. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Edited on 6/24/2004 9:42 AM
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 09:57:54 AM: I think Columbia's Throttle Up will do the job nicely for you.

Pete
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 10:41:03 AM: Would the v2 clean have enough hook?
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 10:43:31 AM: Personally i thought the V2 clean was for light-medium lanes. Definately wouldnt be the 1st ball out of the bag for medium lanes
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 10:45:59 AM: Yes that is what I thought.
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 10:47:01 AM: What about the new Morich ball The ravage?

Is the throttle up really condition specific?

Edited on 6/24/2004 10:47 AM
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 10:51:00 AM: To be honest, i havent seen this ball being used but Morich rate it as a medium/dry. So like the V2, i dont think you will get what you want out of it
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 10:52:19 AM: If you look at the reviews on the ravage It seems to have a decent amount of hook. Not just on this site but check out www.bowlingballreviews.com

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Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: bamaster on June 24, 2004, 11:12:05 AM: Get the Element Au79 from Dyno-thane. Clears the heads with tons of backend. And the coverstock is Soaker, so you know it wall last.

It's the ball of the millenium. V2 Clean isn't enough ball. The V2 Strong maybe, but not the Clean.

Tony
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Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 11:16:35 AM: The Element Au79 is going to be the next ball in my bag to deal with the carry down on the lane conditions. So its obvious that i like this ball
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 11:21:24 AM: I have a v2 strong it hooks but I just can't ever seem to score with it and wanto get rid of it. Has anyone here bowled with both the Throttle Up and the Element Au79? And I do need help finding a ball for heavier oil if any of you have any suggestions.
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 11:23:58 AM: Heavy oil is with a doubt the Brunswick Ultimate Inferno.
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: bamaster on June 24, 2004, 11:30:22 AM: Price has nothing to do with the amount of hook. The Dyno-thane Soaker coverstock is one of the most durable on the market. It will last longer than most others and as such is worth more.

If you want to compare prices, I'll take the Dyno-thane Vendetta Black over the V2 Clean, any day. These newer generation V2's are hardly what created the V2 craze in the first place. Their cores look nothing like the original V2, which was nothing more than the Nitro R/2 re-introduced (which was a great ball too).

Tony
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 11:46:32 AM: Price doesn't bother me you get what you pay for right? But I really would like to talk to someone that has used both the element au79 and the throttle up. Thanks for all the advice guys keep it coming

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Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: bamaster on June 24, 2004, 12:43:59 PM: quote:
I've given up on giving him brand names but it seems you have stock in Dyno-thane and need to raise profits.

hehe... I have a contract with Dyno-thane which requires me to throw their bowling balls... not sell them.

I have the advantage of throwing all of their equipment and several of each ball. I do not hesitate to say that I can make quality recommendations, because I have experience with several layouts with the same ball and bowl on house and sport conditions.

Some people have a ball they think is the greatest ball ever made. Of course they may never bowl outside a wall shot and it just so happens that the ball layout matched up for them. Similarly, some people may HATE a ball, but the ball was never meant to be used on that condition with that layout for that type of bowler.

On two different occasions I offered to give a bowler a free Dyno-thane ball, layed out by the company owner to their specs, to prove that we could outperform their favorite ball from their favorite ball company. Both bowlers refused the offer.

(this offer is no longer available so please don't PM me asking for a free ball)

There are lots of good balls out there. Just don't be afraid to step outside of your favorite ball company.

Tony
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 24, 2004, 01:23:38 PM: I bowl on wood lanes the lanes are oiled right before it starts I don't know everything about bowling doin the best I can.
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: petedw on June 24, 2004, 01:33:13 PM: If you dont know much about bowling then buy yourself.......
Bowling Execution by John Jowdy. This will teach you nearly everything you need to know
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: bamaster on June 24, 2004, 01:41:18 PM: Fresh oil on wood lanes playing fourth arrow? Never heard of it. Get the Ebonite V2 Clean. Best ball in a decade. Buy a case of them because they won't be for sale next year.
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on June 24, 2004, 01:50:03 PM: The real question is what ball had you been throwing. Assuming it was a heavy medium ball, with your ball speed, you need something that will get through the heads. I'll give you three ideas based on what I have thrown extensively or tried and watched a great deal:

1. Dynothane AU79.
2. Triple X Factor.
3. Brunswick Raging Inferno.

Each, on the average house condition, seems to give folks some room to the outside, with some control on slightly pulled shots. All move. None is overly flippy. I personally vote for the Element because of the coverstock's longevity. But I have and like the Raging and have thrown a Triple X and it has worked marvelously well for many, many people. You could also try a regular Element or Thing set to about 1000 grit.

If you are interested in other companies, let me suggest the Throttle UP (petedw is right), a ball that gets through the heads very well and is clearly the best of the Throttle line (I have bowled very well with it, largely playing a deeper line), and Track's Phenom Unleashed, which is also pretty clean through the heads with a strong recovery for a lot of folks with below average speed and average hand.

I have no stock, I'm on no staff, and I'm not exclusive to any one company. Just my observations.
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Edited on 6/24/2004 1:48 PM
Title: Re: Please help with ball selection
Post by: intergalactic on June 26, 2004, 01:10:38 AM: Thanks for all the help guys gonna run this by the guy in the pro shop and see what he thinks.