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POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« on: August 17, 2009, 01:09:44 PM »
Not talking about your ball a month regular customer, but your average every day league bowler... Is it right that they expect a discount?

Discuss.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2009, 10:28:46 AM »
League players might EXPECT a discount... but, no, I would not offer a basic/generic league player discount.

It is IMHO one of the dumbest things to do, because you put the customer minds on the price and not the value they get. I work in a shopper marketing advertising agency and know this strategic problem well.

That does not mean that a price-off is a bad thing as a marketing tool, but I'd rather make a "good" service package price (e. g. ball incl. drilling and grips, or combo discounts) on a personal basis. It is about the tool's "disguise" .

This has some political effects you should not underestimate in the long run:
1) You do not arouse expectations which you will hardly get rid off and you keep your margins up, with some more space for negotiations.
2) The customer will appreciate the "personal" offer, feel respected, and the "buddy" image of the pro shop will be fortified. It will also keep up the quality perception of a shop's offerings. Never underestimate the emotional component of how you treat your customers, including league players
3) You might cause positive word of mouth effects - "Go to XY, if you buy some things you get a good deal". If you just offer a discount - that's it.
4) It will also improve shop loyalty. If someone else offers more discount, price-oriented customers will leave. If you offer value (in a sense of perceived good overall reward for the money paid and time spent), customer retention is "better", and you avoid the discount downward spiral.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2009, 11:20:52 AM »
If you want the proshop at Matador to be more than a hobby, then 'yes'.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2009, 12:23:33 PM »
Giving discounts can sometimes cause more harm then good...
If a pro shop only offers discounts to certain customers, and others find out about it and they didn't get a discount, that is not a good thing....

And to avoid this, a pro shop would have to give a discount to everyone...

If your price is discounted to everyone, then it is really not a discount at all....  It's your regular price...

If you are dealing with a full time pro shop, not a part time converted broom closet pro shop...  Then a discount should not be expected...

what should be expected is...

A good selection of msde.<<<<  in stock, not in a book.............
Decent fair prices...on msde and all services...
Quality work performed by the shop....
A shop that will stand behind their work...
A pro shop that is open for more then 3 hours a day....


If your nothing but a bargain hunter,  there are plenty of basement or broom closet pro shops out there....  They will drill you a ball, serve you lunch / dinner, wash your car, give you 30 minutes of free lessons,  and a gift cert.  for the "monica"......and lifetme resurface jobs....

Now let me ask you bargain hunters this...

Do you seek out the lowest possible price when you need a Doctor or a dentist.
Sure we all want to save money, but there comes a point when you may not be really saving at all...

Take the famous $3.00 pizza coupon....   You don't think that $3.00 off coupon has not been factored into their everyday price....  The coupon runs 52 weeks a year...  Your getting nothing off,  nothing at "tall"  

A lot of bowling center shops offer 10%,  but their prices are way higher to begin with.....10% off of a ball selling for $240 is not  a deal if other shops are selling it for $199 - $209....

Finally....  If you are not in the retail business,  you really don't know or understand what a retailer in todays world must cope with....

Next time you EXPECT a discount,  think about this...

Does you boss expect you to work 8 hours and get paid for only 6?????

If no, why not,  why not give your boss a DISCOUNT>>>>>  oh no, can't do that, cause that is money out of your pocket....

Now back to your Keyboards....

And remember this....

There is a korean out there being trained to type on a keyboard...
You can and will be replaced........

Because guess what "Discount lovers"

They work.... At a Discount"

now... what do you think about discounts......

You get what you pay for.................

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2009, 12:37:39 PM »
LoL, good one jls.

As far as that $3 pizza coupon.  Just think if you didn't use it.....  That's how many pizzas X $3.  [Italian accent]Now that's alotta "dough", capiche?[/Italian accent] (pun intended)



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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2009, 01:36:38 PM »
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If you want the proshop at Matador to be more than a hobby, then 'yes'.


Didn't think you could be more retarded... once again, you surprise us all.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2009, 01:42:57 PM »
Hey Nick....

Isn't this your favorite quote you hear at the shop.....

"IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO???"

My answer is always....

"Who do you ask that question to at Wal-Mart?? I'd like to know their answer."

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2009, 01:50:05 PM »
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Didn't think you could be more retarded... once again, you surprise us all.


No need to be defensive. If you want to increase market share in an area where you're the very small fish in the big pond (a fact), one way to get attention is through discounts you wouldn't consider otherwise.

If you think it's 'retarded' to consider market share and long term business development goals in formulating discount strategy, you went one very unconventional business school.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2009, 01:57:44 PM »
LOL Steven, if you only knew what you were talking about.

Beans, my favorite is "What's my price?"
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2009, 02:05:17 PM »
The way the economy is right now, I would think shops would do whatever it takes to keep the current customers they have and if that means giving them some kind of discount, to me that would be worth it in the long run..

I would also think that getting as many new customers as you could would also be essential for staying open in these tough times..

I don't have a shop, but the way some people have responded in this post, not sure how they stay in business with such poor attitudes..
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2009, 02:12:08 PM »
So, it seems you already had your mind set on what was the best answer for you and your shop?  If so, what was the point of the question?

For better or worse, most of the shops I've been to in AL and NC offer discounts for league bowlers.  Maybe a decent percentage of bowlers that live in your area came from areas that offered the discounts in the past?  If so, it would be natural for them to ask if you do the same.

Like others have said, there's nothing wrong with giving a better price or service to regular customers that spend a good amount of money, or provide you with references.  Cutting your margin very thin for a guy that will buy one ball every other year just because he bowls in the same center as your shop seems to have little benefit.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2009, 02:12:46 PM »
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The way the economy is right now, I would think shops would do whatever it takes to keep the current customers they have and if that means giving them some kind of discount, to me that would be worth it in the long run..

I would also think that getting as many new customers as you could would also be essential for staying open in these tough times..

I don't have a shop, but the way some people have responded in this post, not sure how they stay in business with such poor attitudes..
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Really now....

Well how about this.... Maybe if the 9.5% that are unemployed had told their employers that they would work for LESS PAY,  they might not have lost their jobs......  "in this economy right now"

Talk is cheap...  What you are saying here is that pro shops should give it away....  But when it comes to YOUR JOB... you want the big bucks....

And your "poor attitude"  thing is not only STUPID, it's CHILDISH...

Now do me a favor,  tell all your friends about some of us pro shops and our so called bad attitudes...>>>>>  ALL 2 OF THEM..............


You see, some of us pro shops have indeed adjusted our prices during this bad economy.....

Even the ones with "so called bad attitudes"


you getting the point
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2009, 02:22:03 PM »
Strider, it was a poll. Of course I already had my mind set when it comes to how I run my businesses. Things change over time, nothing is ever set in stone.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2009, 02:24:05 PM »
jls,

All I can say is WOW.. Your response was uncalled for and ridiculous..

I never said anything about pro shops should give anything away, that's all you.. You also have no clue what my job is so your big bucks comment makes no sense like everything else you said..

I was giving my opinion and that's it.. People like you are why this site has lost a lot of good posters..

You're a real piece of work, that's all I have to say and by the way you are now on my ignore list so bash away, I could care less what you have to say..





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The way the economy is right now, I would think shops would do whatever it takes to keep the current customers they have and if that means giving them some kind of discount, to me that would be worth it in the long run..

I would also think that getting as many new customers as you could would also be essential for staying open in these tough times..

I don't have a shop, but the way some people have responded in this post, not sure how they stay in business with such poor attitudes..
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Really now....

Well how about this.... Maybe if the 9.5% that are unemployed had told their employers that they would work for LESS PAY,  they might not have lost their jobs......  "in this economy right now"

Talk is cheap...  What you are saying here is that pro shops should give it away....  But when it comes to YOUR JOB... you want the big bucks....

And your "poor attitude"  thing is not only STUPID, it's CHILDISH...

Now do me a favor,  tell all your friends about some of us pro shops and our so called bad attitudes...>>>>>  ALL 2 OF THEM..............

you getting the point
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Edited on 8/19/2009 2:26 PM
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2009, 02:26:02 PM »
I can't really see the reason for a League Bowler Discount.....May only buy one ball a year and then have it discounted doesn't seem like great business sense to me.

Now a repeat customer discount makes complete sense to me. If someone is going to come in over and over then I would think a discount would be possible to say thank you for your continued support.


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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2009, 02:38:27 PM »
Jkisor  and your response is so typical...  You come on and knock pro shops with your comments about their attitudes in this bad economy, and then if one answers your silly post,  you cry like the baby you are and say Iggy list...

Well go ahead BOY,  put me on your childish list... put everyone on it, and when your whole page goes blank, you can talk to yourself....

But I see you did not and can not answer the question....

Will you work for less pay>>>>  Give your boss a discount on your wages...

No, I don't think so...

But you so quick to condeem pro shops...  And I seriously doubt you have any retail experience.....


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