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montymont

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polyester balls- can they hook
« on: January 24, 2010, 01:10:44 AM »
im thinking about buying this ball thats made by sports tec. i found out that the ball is a polyester and im wondering can these balls hook like regular hook balls?
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AngloBowler

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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 09:17:33 AM »
They can, but only on very low oil volumes (or for those with a tremendous amount of hand). The reaction shape will also be a long arc, so no skid-snap type reaction typical of reactive resins.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 12:45:06 PM »
If they did we wouldnt be spending $200 a ball for Reactive Resin. When we could buy a plastic ball for 60 bucks would we?
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 02:16:49 PM »
A tiny bit and it will likely slice through alot due to the lack of angle/carry. I can use my wd up and in if absolutely necessary.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 02:51:41 PM »
SB83, what are your credentials that you can make judgements on someone's game?  Don't giveme a fake average cause I can link everyone to your bowl.com page sean-o.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 03:15:07 PM »
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SB83, what are your credentials that you can make judgements on someone's game?  Don't giveme a fake average cause I can link everyone to your bowl.com page sean-o.
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 How much do you NEED to know to be able to tell someone that a plastic ball won't ever hook like a reactive one will?

 The person DOES sound young, or inexperienced, to say the least.  And more information before you buy is ALWAYS good.

 Oh yeah, link my bowl.com page. My name is Darreyl Dixon and I bowl at classic lanes. My I.D.# is 2243-4831. Maybe I'm qualified?
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 03:49:34 PM »
Will they hook?  Sure.  But you generally will not be going coast to coast.  Anyone with some measure of hand can make a Blue Dot cover a few boards.  Newer poly will move even more, but still not a ton.  

ANY hook with ANY ball is dependent not only on the ball and all of the inherent components but also to the individual player's ability.  Someone with hand will invariably see more movement and it is also possible to drill a ball such that the hook variable is removed from the equation (something one might do to take advantage of weightblock and/or coverstock characteristics on a particular lane condition).
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 04:21:59 PM »
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Juggs,

This troll thinks I'm someone he knows, and he's trying to "expose" me for some kind of "fraud". I have him on ignore, and yet he keeps replying to me because he thinks he can "prove" something. I don't know who he thinks I am, I don't know he thinks he is, and I don't care. At all. I'm here to talk to fellow bowlers and help when I can. This guy obviously has no life to create a fake user name just to harass people on the internet.

You probably won't be qualified, either, because The Stroke knows everything. Didn't you know that? I see he's angered someone, though, maybe the person he's looking for? Just add him to ignore and this forum will be a better place.
 


 Oh, I see. Well, it just seemed strange to me that you needed to qualify to tell whether a plastic ball would ever hook like a reactive ball. The OP obviously doesn't know, so they have to be either a newbie, or some other inexperienced person not to know the answer to that already.

 I'm a house hack anymore. Wasn't always, but am now, but still don't mind people looking up my stats. I've got a few, just wanted to know if I had enough .
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 06:47:38 PM »
i have been bowling for a few years now and i have had  my share of balls over the years. im just trying to get knowledge of certain balls before i buy them. i buy a lot of used balls and i try to learn about their hooking power. some dont hook like i want them to so i decide after while to give them up.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 08:28:26 PM »
provided the lane condition will accomodate the plastic ball it can be very high scoring. when chris barnes and robert smith were on team usa coach fred borden set up a plastic ball tournament. robert smith shot a 300 game and chris barnes shot a 1,000 series for 4 games.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 09:45:50 PM »
a polyester or plastic ball is primarily used for spares.. going straight at spares.. these balls are intended to NOT hook...

They will hook on extremely dry conditions or if you have a ton of revs... they lack hitting power though because most polyester or plastic balls do not have cores in them like other higher performance balls
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 09:47:23 PM »
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i have been bowling for a few years now and i have had  my share of balls over the years. im just trying to get knowledge of certain balls before i buy them. i buy a lot of used balls and i try to learn about their hooking power. some dont hook like i want them to so i decide after while to give them up.


 No biggie. Like I said, info is always good before buying, so asking a question is a good thing. Just wondered why someone thought you had to qualify to give advice that is reasonably common knowledge.

 As far as will a plastic ball hook, yes they will given the right conditions, but they will not perform like a resin ball does. I've bowled some good games and sets with plastic, but on conditions that were meant for those type balls because they don't like oil hardly at all. Generally, plastic balls only perform well as strike balls on very dry lane conditions.

 Someone correctly stated that hooking ability is based on friction. If you have the proper amount of friction, any ball will work. Plastic balls have very low friction covers, so they need high friction lane surfaces to work properly.
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 01:19:26 AM »
Well Sean you show up in the strangest places, You gave yourself away again by being a immature little prick. and why not? That is all you are, 4Pin,TCP,SB83, Sean I have seen your average sheet to big man with a 197 average last year. You are not even good enough to be a hack

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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 09:37:40 AM »
themezz and Juggernaut got it right.  Try sanding a plastic ball with 80 grit, then throw it and report back whether or not it hooked.  Plastic will never perform like resin, but if it creates friction it will hook.  --  JohnP
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Re: polyester balls- can they hook
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2010, 11:58:01 AM »
Jason Belmonte can doubtless hook polyester in oil, but the rest of us mere mortals tend to need dry conditions or at least fresh and squeaky clean back ends to do that.  I use my polyester ball as a strike ball when everything else I have in my bag is going into the head pin (or worse) and I'm not able to do anything (that I know how to do) in order to get them back to the pocket.  That doesn't happen very often.
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