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thewhiz

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« on: January 22, 2020, 12:50:28 PM »
How do the guys on tour who do not cash on a weekly basis survive on tour?

 

itsallaboutme

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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 01:46:14 PM »
They don't. 

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 02:01:31 PM »
How do the guys on tour who do not cash on a weekly basis survive on tour?

Personal Sponsors & Family members with deep pockets who don't understand/don't care about ROI.

In Vegas I heard a young pro talking about "having to borrow another 25 grand from his dad" cause he didn't know how he was going to survive the rest of the touring year. Not a bad problem to have. I also know another ex pro who never made a telecast but bowled for many years, estimate that he and his family spent $250k out of their own pockets to finance his tour run in the mid 2000s-early 2010s when he turned his card back in.

Imagine the return of spending $250k in a specialized field/doctorate/law degree and what that could secure in a nice 6 figure/year living for a lifetime.

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 03:19:31 PM »
Is there still a decent amount of action outside of the tournaments for the pros?  My great uncle was a pro way back, and although he never won a title he made a living on tour from people that wanted to bowl for cash after.

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 06:10:19 PM »
Back when I was young I cant count how many people were always asking me why I didnt go on tour.  I gave them all the same answer.   As an accountant at a local company my salary would have put me in the top 30 on tour.  Plus I had good medical, a retirement plan , and no travel costs.   

A very good friend of mine had 3 titles on tour and mulitple top 5 finishes over the years.  He is 68 years old, and cant afford to retire so he is still working
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 06:58:39 PM »
The only way I could see it being financially viable would be to

1. Live in an RV
2. Have no kids
3. Have a gig on the side where I could consult when I'm not bowling.

Until bowling is putting out $75000 on top a week for 40 weeks, you won't be able to survive.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2020, 07:02:11 PM »
Belmo's prize money in 2019 wouldn't put him in the top 70 of the golfer prize list IIRC (yep, barely in top 100 even).  As to Bob's point that was the conclusion Fagan came to as well.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2020, 07:27:36 PM »
Huh?  Belmonte’s CAREER earning would get him into the top 70 on the 2019 PGA Tour money list.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2020, 07:39:53 PM »
Lol his career earnings total would barely get him in top 15 in golf for 2019 alone but meant yeah if just go off one year he barely makes top 100 in golf last year.  Meaning guys who consistently missed cuts made more than Belmo.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2020, 08:02:41 PM »
Do some research before you post instead of just guessing.

2019 earnings would get him 188th on the PGA list. Need to be over $1 million to get inside top 100.

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2020, 08:21:47 PM »
How do the guys on tour who do not cash on a weekly basis survive on tour?

Personal Sponsors & Family members with deep pockets who don't understand/don't care about ROI.

In Vegas I heard a young pro talking about "having to borrow another 25 grand from his dad" cause he didn't know how he was going to survive the rest of the touring year. Not a bad problem to have. I also know another ex pro who never made a telecast but bowled for many years, estimate that he and his family spent $250k out of their own pockets to finance his tour run in the mid 2000s-early 2010s when he turned his card back in.

Imagine the return of spending $250k in a specialized field/doctorate/law degree and what that could secure in a nice 6 figure/year living for a lifetime.

With the bold, you basically have a Scott Norton. Now you know why he has that law degree, and given the time, could use his earnings from that to fund himself on tour.

The only way I could see it being financially viable would be to

1. Live in an RV
2. Have no kids
3. Have a gig on the side where I could consult when I'm not bowling.

Until bowling is putting out $75000 on top a week for 40 weeks, you won't be able to survive.

You just described WRW here, especially since for his time on tour, he and his wife lived in an RV and traveled to each stop. Whether they have children or not now, I don't know, but they definitely did this for the most of his career.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2020, 08:30:46 PM »
How do the guys on tour who do not cash on a weekly basis survive on tour?

Personal Sponsors & Family members with deep pockets who don't understand/don't care about ROI.

In Vegas I heard a young pro talking about "having to borrow another 25 grand from his dad" cause he didn't know how he was going to survive the rest of the touring year. Not a bad problem to have. I also know another ex pro who never made a telecast but bowled for many years, estimate that he and his family spent $250k out of their own pockets to finance his tour run in the mid 2000s-early 2010s when he turned his card back in.

Imagine the return of spending $250k in a specialized field/doctorate/law degree and what that could secure in a nice 6 figure/year living for a lifetime.

A lot of pro bowlers aren’t skilled enough to bag groceries. There’s a reason a lot of guys out there are on wife 3 or 4.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2020, 09:01:47 PM »
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You just described WRW here, especially since for his time on tour, he and his wife lived in an RV and traveled to each stop. Whether they have children or not now, I don't know, but they definitely did this for the most of his career.

Didn't he get remarried the last year or two?

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2020, 09:48:18 PM »
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You just described WRW here, especially since for his time on tour, he and his wife lived in an RV and traveled to each stop. Whether they have children or not now, I don't know, but they definitely did this for the most of his career.

Didn't he get remarried the last year or two?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Ray_Williams_Jr.

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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2020, 09:59:31 PM »
I forgot he had an adopted daughter.