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prmtme

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Projecting the ball right
« on: June 12, 2011, 10:39:18 AM »
 I have been having a hard time getting the ball right as I move in as the lanes dry. I have no problem going straight when needed or moving my feet in and moving my breakpoint in also. But I have been having a hard time lately moving in and still projecting it out, any tips would be helpful.


 

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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 06:58:08 PM »
Let me rephrase what I think you are saying. You are moving left (for a righty) and having a hard time walking diagonally to your release point/target? (As you want to walk straight).



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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 07:07:00 PM »

Thanks for asking this question because I've noticed this with myself even on dry lanes today.  Whenever I projected right to give myself more angle, it seems that I would go over the top too much and then the ball would go too long and blow through the breakpoint.



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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 08:10:01 PM »
Move your target down the lane.   The drill of looking your target line to your target is helpfull.   It's really more of fooling your eyes and mind to not throw at the pins.   Practise!!!!!



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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 08:16:56 PM »
Some basics of this situation are
- make sure your swing plane is more or less in line (or at least parallel) with your projected ball path. I mean, if the ball isn't initially projected towards the proposed breakpoint, you're lost from the word, "go". In the old days, I would have said, "you have to push the ball towards the intended target (breakpoint), but we don't "pushaway" any more. If the ball is started towards the proper breakpoint, it will more than likely start in the proper swing plane. Also make sure your shoulders and body are pointed towards the right direction. If you shoulders are parallel to the foul line, then you're going to walk parallel to the lines on the floor and the ball is going to swing that way and not at the angle you need.
 
- make sure your hand position and  release is the same or at least similar to the one you normally use. If you're turning the ball early (lower track, high tilt), you have no confidence in the ball, the line and  your release. Maybe you're even a little too deep for the ball or the condition.  Yo have to believe the the ball will come back from where you're releasing it. It's only human to not trust something you do not do very often. Maybe you need to practice it more often, not just wait until  you absolutely have to do it.
 


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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 03:40:03 AM »
Just what CharlesT suggested - try to concentrate on execution and focus un your target, ignore the idea that you play in an angle across the boards. I had big trouble for a long time converting 4s and 7s with a spare ball, because I had to play straight across the lane, and was frequently confused by the angled boards in my vision field. It distracted me a lot. I overcame this through staying square with shoulders and hip to my target, just focusiing the point on the lane across which I intended to play the ball straight. I'd project a line from the target pin through the target and my straight pendulum swing plane, and turn my body accordingly - keeping anything else as usual, with the idea in my mind that I actually CAN project a ball straight down in autopilot, and that this "full body aiming" should suffice. And it actually does! I just focus on the target and a good follow-through now, and this works like a charm. Another good point is that I can apply this technique almost blindly, and it works basically also for strike shots. Instead of steering the ball I just focus on the target and proper execution. The ball reaction down the lane comes more or less automatically, so that I can blend out even deep angles. I just need confidence im my release and the ball's reaction.


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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 07:41:36 AM »
There's already some great suggestions so I will add something to look at.

 

I took a lesson in Reno because I was having a similar problem.  I was told that I wa pushing the ball away from my body and the swing of the ball caused me to pull the ball.  I wa told to keep the ball/arm/elbow under the shoulder and this would help with the projection of the ball keeping in mind that the feet and the body has to be paralell to the target.  I still struggled and continued to get the ball out from under my shoulder causing me to pull the ball.  I was told to try and push the ball out but toward the center of my chest.  In reality I didn't push towrd the center of my chest, but it seemed like it did but what it did do, was keep my swing under my shoulder.

 

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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 07:52:31 AM »
Its trial and error my friend, there a many ways to accomplish this you just have to figure out what works for you. A good starting point is like someone else mentioned, get a feel for looking further down lane-think where you want the ball to be at the end of the pattern.

 

Another point is to get used to opening your shoulders and hips a little more in your stance. This can seem very weird at first for someone who is a straighter player and is used to staying more square throughout their approach. Take some time to work on presetting the angle of your hips and shoulders in your stance. Start out around 15 at the arrows, and play around with different stances. One thing I do is I stagger my slide foot in relation to my right leg because Im right handed. Generally, the deeper I play the more stagger, or further away I place my slide foot in my stance compared to my right leg. As you get more comfortable target different arrows, and project the ball through the arrows and to your breakpoint. As you move deeper, turn your hips and shoulders to different angles towards the right gutter if you are right handed, untill you can hit your target consistently. Dont be surprised if the deeper you move in, the closer to the foul line you have to look to get the ball to read.

 

Another thing I have done is turn my feet to the right just a hair, so that they are facing towards my breakpoint, or where I want the ball to be at the back of the pattern. This is especially helpful on those conditions later in tournaments where the front part of the lane is fried and I have a breakpoint towards the gutter I need to hit.

 

The key is to practice it, find what works for you. Also, Ron Clifton at www.bowl4fun.com has some great articles for this subject, and he is a great coach who I have had the pleasure to work with a time or two. Good Luck!!


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Re: Projecting the ball right
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 02:29:35 PM »
Thanks for the great responses, I have had a problem opening up my angle when I move in deep all year. This year at nationals it reared its head again, I was lined up throwing 16 at the arrows and hitting 9 down at the breakpoint markers in singles and doubles. The line started to go away so I moved in and was hitting 20 at the arrows but now I was hitting 12 every shot down the lane, I could not get myself to get the ball to 8-9 for anything.I think I am to square to the line  ( not complety square) and not open enough. is it as simple as just angling myself more, I do a little all ready?