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Kevin

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Pro Shop nightmare
« on: April 30, 2003, 11:47:20 PM »
Just drop a ball off at the Pro Shop to be drilled. Never used this guy before. He measures my hand. I go on to tell him what I am trying to do with the ball and a little about my style/game.
He says to me, "I know what you're trying to do, Knock down 12 strikes like everyone else."

I replied, Well that would be nice...lol

He says: "Let me tell you something, This Ball won't do it. When you are ready to buy a Ball that will, come see me"
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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2003, 09:03:36 AM »
The pro shop I deal with most in SD doesn't mind me bringing in internet bowling balls to be drilled.  Between the dollar or two for thumb insert and inserts, its all profit (doesn't pay rent or anything else in the bowling alley)  not one complaint or anything.  Thats just less they have to do since they don't stock very many bowling balls and bowling balls are only delivered on Thursday, almost too late to drill them and test them before a weekend tournament.

Another pro shop owner/operator knew me for years, but didn't oval thumbs so i wnr elsewhere.  Well recently (I don't know how long ago) he started ovaling thumbs.  So I bring two bowling balls in for him to drill and he charges me 100 dollars.  he taught me a lesson.  i don't go there anymore.

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mumzie

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2003, 09:47:12 AM »
Well, my pro shop guy is reasonable - he realizes that I have lots of sources for equipment other than him. (As a PWBA member, my world is a little bigger than the average shop.) He sometimes is amazed at the variety of equipment I drag in.
I buy a couple of balls a year from him at or around retail, and most of my tape and other sundry items.  Other than that, he drills everything else for me.
I have sometimes paid him more than his asking price, because I think his services are valuable to me. And I don't hesitate to ask his advice, even on balls I don't get from him, because I trust him... Yes - it's a unique and great spot to be in.

Now - the other guy - the one I USED to use - it's amazing. He'd actually call me and tell me he just got in a great ball I had to have. So I'd go down and check it out - not knowing much about equipment, layout, etc, at that time, I really had no choice but to trust him. So I'd pay full retail for a ball that was ABSOLUTELY perfect for my game. I'd show up for monte carlo (yep, monte carlo) at that house, and find 6 or 8 more of the same perfect ball on the rack. Obviously, he's a member of the ball of the month club, and was only selling the balls he makes the most money from. Now - that is a viable business model that might work for 80% of his clientele - BUT when he has the VERY serious bowler in, seems to me that model should change somewhat.
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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2003, 09:53:52 AM »
Reading this thread has sure put me in a cautious mood:  I'm taking my first ball in to get drilled for the first time at a pro-shop guy that I've only met once.  He came fairly highly recommended, but now I'm somewhat worried!

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2003, 10:05:50 AM »
My proshop down here in San Antonio doesn't mind at all if I bring in stuff from the internet...new or used.  Just last week I took in three used balls that I needed fitted/drilled up.  We ended up having to plug and redrill all three, but to save me some money he didn't chare me for plugging.  He also does a light resufacing for free as part of his plugging and redrilling service.  He is a great guy...always willing to listen, and always willing to give advice.  Wouldn't go anywhere else.

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2003, 10:40:24 AM »
I thknk for most part, when you find a proshop that treats you well and provides the service at a fair price, then you are set.  Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it right.  My first driller knew one pattern (label leverage).  If you wanted a little more or less length, he would shift the cg slightly.  This drill worked well in his house. 99% of the locals don't know any better.  
When I moved, my first new driller operated on the same basis.  Except it was one of his own personal favorite drills (cg in palm and pin at 3 o'clock).  If you asked for something differnt, he would reply, "I don't like the layout of that ball... you should try this."  Finally after talking to a few people and researching myself, I went across town and tried another guy.  

BINGO!  I discovered this whole new world (able to move BOTH the pin and cg around).  Very friendly and knowledgable...even offered to teach me the ropes!  This was a few years back, but now I stay with this guy almost exclusively (and recommend him to others).  As with any busines, I think you need to have an open mind, people skills, and not be afraid to try new things.

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mumzie

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2003, 12:29:35 PM »
Dan,
Sounds like you are a lot like the guy I use. Folks like you are few and far between - and unfortunately, not enough customers recognize that.

I carry my guy's business cards in my wallet. I don't hesitate to recommend him - EVER. And the other thing I do for him - I don't ever tell someone what I paid for a ball, or for a service. I know that my guy sometimes gives me a good discount, just because I give him so much business and/or referrals.
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Doc Hollywood

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2003, 12:43:26 PM »
Maybe you should buy a ball from that proshop guy provided he give you a written statement that the ball he sells you will provide you a 12 strikes in a row and when it doesn't then you can sue him for false advertisng and fraud.

Maybe that will shut him up.
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CoachJim

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2003, 01:31:43 PM »
Kevin where is this unprofesional pro-shop?

Edited on 5/2/2003 1:38 PM

Edited on 5/5/2003 8:20 PM

Rodimus

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2003, 03:31:58 PM »
Just got back from having my ball (Scout Reactive) drilled.  This guy was GREAT.  He took all the hand measurements, asked how long I had been bowling.  I said "since about January" and he jokingly said "well then I might not be good enough for ya."  Really friendly and knowledgeable, guaranteed his work, gave me some summer league brochures, told me that if I struggled with the new ball he'd be more than happy to give me some pointers.  WOW!

AdrianS

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Re: Pro Shop nightmare
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2003, 06:19:09 AM »
Not sure who did the last plug job on a couple of oldies i just picked up, one needs a whole plug and redrill anyway so the big bump where the thumb used to be wont be there anymore.  The other one has a bumpy old pair of fingerholes smack bang in the track. Oh well, a couple hours on friday and they'll be more than usable again.
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