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Title: pro shop prices
Post by: DON DRAPER on August 03, 2008, 09:47:13 AM
i was at a pba regional tournament this weekend watching the action and couldn't help noticing some prices on items and services in the pro shop at this bowling center:

brunswick bowling balls( includes drilling )


copperhead & swarm $175
ultra zone $200
avalanche series $150


morich bowling balls( includes drilling )

n'sane levrg & n'tense levrg  $240


finger grips $6 apiece


i'm not in the pro shop business so i'm not sure but these prices seem high to me. anyone ?
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: sdbowler on August 03, 2008, 06:06:25 PM
One other thing to think about as well is the cost of shipping things now. I hvae not shipped anything for awhile but I am sure UPS, FEDEX, DHL, and USPS have raised thier prices. With higher shipping prices just like everything else the price will be higher.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 03, 2008, 06:21:41 PM
those are good prices drilled, South Point here in Vegas was getting 279.95 for Morich plus grips and thumb slug. Of course they sat and rotted as most of us will never pay that, they ended closing them out for 150 plus drilling being a little sneaky.

The internet(Ebay) has made it possible to snag deals, just won an Arch Rival for 102.00 shipped with good specs from a seller I have used before.
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: backswing_aplenty on August 03, 2008, 06:59:24 PM
Sounds reasonable to me if they include the drilling and only a $6 charge for inserts.  The Morich's may be a bit high, but you can normally get a little more for those.


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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: thegame on August 03, 2008, 07:05:45 PM
Couldn't be happier I invested in my own drill press, and accessories, and took the time to learn the basics of getting started.  I have enough knoweledge to drill for myself and my wife, and for now, that's plenty good enough for me.  Prices on everything have gone up, and I can't put a whole lot of blame on the pro shops, they need their income just like anyone else, but it's been so long since I've priced equipment in a shop, yeah, that would have seemed high to me also.
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: John D Davis on August 03, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
All this boils down to the service you recieve. If you have confidence with ur ball driller than the prices dont mean a hill of beans.... There are some centers near my area, that I wouldnt pay 150 for a drilled N'Sane for simply because they are terrible ball drillers and sometimes dont have the right size inserts,etc. Right now, I get Shawn McKee to drill my stuff in a town called Mooresville, NC. I have to drive over an hour to get there and he is kinda expensive... But now I get chance to use switch-grips and always have the inserts when I need to change a dozen balls. For me, this means alot. Hope my insite helps, John
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: on August 03, 2008, 07:18:17 PM
Here's where we're at:
Prices w/ drilling:

Swarm and Copperhead $159
Ultra Zone $175
Avalanche $125

Finger inserts $4 each (installed)


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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: buried7pin on August 03, 2008, 07:21:32 PM
I just priced a 900 Global Break Pearl drilled with grips for $175 out the door from my proshop guy.

John
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: stpwned on August 03, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Well in my shop we sell the ultra zone at 224.99 and avalanche is at 159.99. Then again we are known to be terribly overpriced, but we have a killer sale going on over 20 balls, damn near internet price.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Atochabsh on August 04, 2008, 06:52:59 AM
They are slightly and I do mean slightly higher then our shop.  The balls, shoes everything has gone up recently.

Erin
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: AngloBowler on August 04, 2008, 07:59:24 AM
I've frequented the same pro shop for many years now, and buy all my balls there. If I can afford it, I don't mind paying a little more because I value the service and expertise I receive, and he has to make a living too.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: icefiction on August 04, 2008, 08:08:50 AM
anyone else think that internet availability of balls has killed their sales
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Russell on August 04, 2008, 10:43:23 AM
Bowling has one of the lowest net profit margins of any industry, because of a lack of restraint by companies selling direct to the public.  Shops are going under left and right and the big boys (B'wick, Ebonite, Storm) could care less.

Go online and try to find a new Taylor Made Tour Burner for less than you can buy it in the store....unless it is ebay you won't find it.  Go find a pair of Oakley sunglasses for less than Sunglass Hut....won't happen.

Those industries protect the retail stores....bowling continually s@#t$ on them.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: icefiction on August 04, 2008, 10:47:21 AM
word up, Russell has hit the nail right on the head. Ill second that by giving another analogy: try buyin a used car online for less then u can talk a sales guy down on a car lot. Proshops cant even cut deals anymore because of how little money they are makin of the products, and bowlingball.com's special deals every day are sometimes lower then the cost we get from our distributor.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: scotts33 on August 04, 2008, 10:49:16 AM
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Go online and try to find a new Taylor Made Tour Burner for less than you can buy it in the store....unless it is ebay you won't find it.


eBay is killing the golf industry sales also.  Ping is the only company making their dealers follow their MSRP.  I've seen new TM Burner drivers at dealers under the MSRP.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: NJStroker on August 04, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
u guys think that is HIGH??? a BW here is 195 without grips and slugs and tax, resurgance is 210 without grips and slugs and tax. i find it goes by area also, some areas are higher than other.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Smash49 on August 04, 2008, 12:48:57 PM
Things are a little goofy here in Oklahoma.  Everyone we have seen so far except us charge by the type of ball being drilled and not the type work performed. To drill a Reactive ball is $35, a Urethane ball is $30 and Plastic is $20. Prices for bowling balls is surprisingly low but shoe cost is high.  Different areas have different systems.

Smash49
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Brickguy221 on August 04, 2008, 01:08:08 PM
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Things are a little goofy here in Oklahoma. Everyone we have seen so far except us charge by the type of ball being drilled and not the type work performed. To drill a Reactive ball is $35, a Urethane ball is $30 and Plastic is $20. Prices for bowling balls is surprisingly low but shoe cost is high. Different areas have different systems.


Smash, I agree. Duggan at Blvd Bowl in Edmond has ball priced without drilling-grips-slug whereas Donnie at Heritage in OKC has the ball priced "drilled and out the door".
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Lillen on August 04, 2008, 01:32:21 PM
You guys are lucky, come over to Europe..  

We pay about $400 - $475 for a ball...  

Drilling, slug and grips included..
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 04, 2008, 01:37:28 PM
Was in Moscow,Russia Brunswick balls were about 550 dollars american drilled. Talk about high lineage about 10 bucks a game, these guys get gouged huge.



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You guys are lucky, come over to Europe..  

We pay about $400 - $475 for a ball...  

Drilling, slug and grips included..
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: cenastyle on August 04, 2008, 02:38:11 PM
I just got a NIB Morich Solid LevRG on eBay for $80 shipped.  My shop charges $80 to drill a ball not purchased there, including grips and slug.  They are charging $240 for this same ball and charge $60 to drill a ball purchased there, including grips and slug.  I will gladly pay the extra $20 to get it drilled and buy online for $140 cheaper.  I have seen lots of other examples of saving a lot of $ by buying online and not at my pro shop:
-Hammer Black Widow Venom...$210 in shop vs. $110-120 shipped online
-Roto-Grip Cell...$190 in shop vs. $100-115 shipped online
-Morich 'NSane LevRG...$240 in shop vs. $100-125 shipped online
-Brunswick Fury (yeah, they still have some)...$200 in shop vs. $80-100 shipped online
Sorry, simple economics apply...
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: scotts33 on August 04, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
quote:
-Hammer Black Widow Venom...$210 in shop vs. $110-120 shipped online
-Roto-Grip Cell...$190 in shop vs. $100-115 shipped online
-Morich 'NSane LevRG...$240 in shop vs. $100-125 shipped online
-Brunswick Fury (yeah, they still have some)...$200 in shop vs. $80-100 shipped online


cenastyle,

Can you post some links for the balls you listed for that $$$?  I have not seen any that low. Thanks!

 
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: cenastyle on August 04, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
quote:
quote:
-Hammer Black Widow Venom...$210 in shop vs. $110-120 shipped online
-Roto-Grip Cell...$190 in shop vs. $100-115 shipped online
-Morich 'NSane LevRG...$240 in shop vs. $100-125 shipped online
-Brunswick Fury (yeah, they still have some)...$200 in shop vs. $80-100 shipped online


cenastyle,

Can you post some links for the balls you listed for that $$$?  I have not seen any that low. Thanks!

 
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Edited on 8/4/2008 3:03 PM

eBay, bowlingball.com, bowling.com...just google the ball you're looking for and you'll find several places to buy from.
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: jls on August 04, 2008, 03:32:20 PM
quote:
i was at a pba regional tournament this weekend watching the action and couldn't help noticing some prices on items and services in the pro shop at this bowling center:

brunswick bowling balls( includes drilling )


copperhead & swarm $175  ........ $169
ultra zone $200          ........ $179
avalanche series $150    ........ $129


morich bowling balls( includes drilling )

n'sane levrg & n'tense levrg  $240   Don't Stock


finger grips $6 apiece     .....  ok


i'm not in the pro shop business so i'm not sure but these prices seem high to me. anyone ?

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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: scotts33 on August 04, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
quote:
   quote:

        quote:-Hammer Black Widow Venom...$210 in shop vs. $110-120 shipped online
        -Roto-Grip Cell...$190 in shop vs. $100-115 shipped online
        -Morich 'NSane LevRG...$240 in shop vs. $100-125 shipped online
        -Brunswick Fury (yeah, they still have some)...$200 in shop vs. $80-100 shipped online

    cenastyle,

    Can you post some links for the balls you listed for that $$$? I have not seen any that low. Thanks!


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    Edited on 8/4/2008 3:03 PM


eBay, bowlingball.com, bowling.com...just google the ball you're looking for and you'll find several places to buy from.  


RG Cell on bowlingball.com was $124.99 w/ no pro pins inc. shipping
bowling.com $119.99 inc. shipping

Hammer Black Widow Venom bowlingball.com was $128.99 inc. shipping
bowling.com $123.99 inc. shipping

I did not search thru eBay as I would probably not buy from there as you have majority of sellers adding exhorbitant shipping rates.

So, if your driller charges you $80.00 you are basically saving maybe $15 - $20 max.  I don't see the big dollar savings except on the Morich LevRg.

I'd still go to my pro shop in these cases as he will warranty any problems and on-line sellers you will have to ship the ball back.




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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on August 04, 2008, 07:11:10 PM
The guy I go to is good.  Widows, which are really all I have bought from him are like $189 out the door.  I bought my original Widow on eBay, took it to him and saw a saving of like $20...wasn't worth it to me.  Now I can just call him, tell him what I want, and how I want it..and it's ready in a couple days.

I will buy online when wanting to experiment with something, or looking for a ball that is discontinued..anything new, it's from the shop.

I don't blame the shops for higher prices, they need to make money somehow.  Sadly the economy is going in the pooper, and a lot of folks can't afford it..so everyone feels it in the end.
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Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: Smash49 on August 04, 2008, 07:28:09 PM
Widows are like fish.  We take the top 3 Internet distributors average the price, tack on the drill charge and that's the price.  Inserts and slug $12.50 extra.  At least once a month we have this same thread.  Why would I buy a ball from a Pro Shop for $50 more than the Internet and then still have to pay to get it drilled???    You can buy the ball online and have the shop drill it and save $50.  We have been Internet competitive for years.

Widow Bites and Pearls sell for $169.95 Drilled + Tax. Inserts and Slugs $12.50 + Tax extra.

Smash49

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Edited on 8/4/2008 7:35 PM
Title: Re: pro shop prices
Post by: srlunatic on August 04, 2008, 07:30:46 PM
I think that high performance balls are never going to be a money maker for pro shops....

In the one I work at....we make our profit killings on the mid priced and low end equipment....

We are starting to actually tell our customers to get the high performance items off the internet. We charge 35 bucks to drill a ball not ours...9 bucks for thumb slug...4.50 for insters...

By doing this we really keep our costs down and make very good profit on drilling and such...


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