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SVstar34

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« on: October 07, 2013, 07:13:14 PM »
Since I started bowling leagues again this year(1st time since 2009) I've been having a little problem during the 2nd/3rd games and can't seem to string anything together.

I normally take with me to league my 900G Bounty @ 2000 abralon, probably closer to 4000 now with the games I've put on it since the surface change, Brunswick Twisted Fury (pearl) @ 1000+polish, and my Hammer Blue Vibe @ 4000+polish. Also have a Crossroad that i'll usually take with me @ 4000 abralon.

I'll start with my Bounty and chase inside, and then I'll get to a point where the Bounty just doesn't have enough recovery to make it back after the breakdown of oil. I'll ball down to the Twisted Fury which has always allowed me to play closer to the friction, but on the conditions it doesn't get enough kick on the back.(leaving flat 10s quite a bit, as for some reason oil starts to carrydown during the middle of the 2nd game.) The Crossroad I have gives me an identical reaction to the Twisted Fury, as at the time when I had the Crossroad drilled, I did not like the TF reaction.

After all this text, if you're still reading...(hopefully) Would it be beneficial for me to add a light coat of polish to my Bounty? or Should I invest in a stronger pearl ball? (i.e Byte, Nano Pearl, Reax Pearl...etc)

Layouts:

Bounty: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4h4iae&s=5#.UlNLmhAnFs8
TF: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d1juo5&s=5#.UlNRvhAnFs8
Crossroad: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dph27t&s=5#.UlNR0xAnFs8

Thanks


« Last Edit: October 07, 2013, 07:29:22 PM by SVstar34 »

 

kidlost2000

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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 07:22:14 PM »
Try adjusting surface on the twisted fury to 500 sanded plus a light touch of polish. Should be an in expensive idea to try.
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SVstar34

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 07:37:22 PM »
wouldn't that reduce my backend reaction kidlost? I already have it at 1000 + polish

kidlost2000

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 07:52:54 PM »
The hope is to get it hooking sooner and continue down lane. If there is oil down lane you do not want more length. Otherwise you'd go 4000 and polish. This would likly skid for days before hitting pins.


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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 08:05:37 PM »
I couldn't chase the transition left with my Bounty either. Awesome on the fresh, but come a move left, dime dime dime. If you were going to go 900 again, I would go with a Protocol or Black eagle pearl. The more I hear about the Protocol, the more it sounds awesome.

SVstar34

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 08:13:38 PM »
The TF already hooks pretty soon, I haven't been able to get enough angle with it to carry the 10. When the backends are flying, its a great ball and also on tournament/sport patterns when I need to stay right. That's where my contemplation on adding a light coat of polish to my Bounty comes in. What about taking the TF to 2000 no polish? Since the Crossroad gives me a similar reaction right now

kidlost2000

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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 08:24:47 PM »
The tf and cr are drilled to be smooth down lane. That plus oil down lane doesn't do you much good. Try 1000 sanded no polish if you don't want to try the 500 polish. If you really want to shine the bounty then shine it. It may not be as good on your first game in a half when your currently using it.
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SVstar34

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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013, 08:32:38 PM »
Should i just look to invest in a slightly stronger pearl or hybrid then?

kidlost2000

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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 08:38:45 PM »
No unless you can't get the others to work. Surface and layout will be the bigger factor over solid peral or hybrid. If you want to spend the money for a new ball that works too.
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Matt Fortney

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 08:44:09 PM »
Without knowing your style or any of your stats I would say you're on the right track looking for a pearl, but I'm not sure it has to necessarily be one of the strong ones you mention. Even a medium oil pearl with the right drill will do what you need it to do.

Consider something like the Motiv Tribal. Put a pin up drill on it and you've got yourself backend. Seems like it's not necessarily carry down but like the heads are burning up a little bit. So the balls aren't getting to the backend with any energy left, the Bounty because of the strength of the drill and the surface, the other two because of the drill. If it were me, I would go with a medium pearl with a not too strong (think 4.5 or longer to pap) a drill. Hope this helps good luck man keep us posted.

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SVstar34

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2013, 09:01:07 PM »
I haven't been able to get video lately after my game has changed some. If I were to compare myself to someone, it would be Scott Podosek who does the videos on YouTube for Competitive Edge Bowling except I have more side roll.

My preference for a new ball would be the Reax Pearl as I want to give Radical a try, however, if I found something like a Nuts Pearl, Marvel Pearl, or a Taboo Pearl (B/S or Purple) for cheap I dont think I'd be able to pass that up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yg7tK9SsLI&list=UUUdapKcbpNzp3PGwdo7P6GQ
« Last Edit: October 08, 2013, 04:34:04 PM by SVstar34 »

SVstar34

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 04:40:46 PM »
Bump

Something came to mind today. Could I possibly add an X-hole to my Crossroad that would allow to have a stronger move on the back as a different option? X-holes are a spot i'm not too familiar with, outside of just some basic knowledge.

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 07:13:58 PM »
Bump

Something came to mind today. Could I possibly add an X-hole to my Crossroad that would allow to have a stronger move on the back as a different option? X-holes are a spot i'm not too familiar with, outside of just some basic knowledge.

I thought the issue was carry down?
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SVstar34

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 07:23:25 PM »
On Wednesday mens league I have trouble carrying the 10 as I move farther inside with my bounty, however if I ball down both my Crossroad and TF just don't have quite enough reaction downlane.
On Sundays, 4 person mixed I've been experiencing carrydown middle/end of game 2 in the track area to where I'm more pointing the ball towards the pocket and going flat 10 or just come up short of pocket. I even took my heavy oil ball a Rogue Cell @ 1000 for 1 of the weeks but oil is gone from the heads.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 08:40:33 PM »
A lot of times when I have to move in and chase the oil I have to move to a stronger ball.  Yes the shot is drying up, but when you move in you're making the oil act a little heavier and also want the ball to react more/stronger. 

When Belmonte lofts the gutter cap he isn't throwing a medium pearl, he's throwing a shiny Critical Theory. 

Carry down issues are different than carry issues.